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Thanks, Casey. Our predominant sailing conditions here are 5-18 knots, so light air performance is key. The Sea Spite 23 is a looker, very pretty. I will explore the Triton option a little bit more, it definitely offers a compromise worth considering. It catches my eye every time I see it, so that's a start.... though I'm a little intimidated by the amount of work and money a proper restoration would take (I have a day job, and am not a marine craftsman).
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Well, if you're willing to go with a full keel sailboat but do not want to work too much fixing it up and so on...

I would suggest the Cape Dory 27. Similar speed as the Triton, even though its slightly smaller. Good ones are around 17 - 25K or so. It will be much easier to find one that is in good condition and do not need all that much work needing to be done to it. A 25K Cape Dory 27 often ends up cheaper in the long run than one that cost 15K. Truthfully, a Triton, even one that cost only 1K will end up costing as much as a 25K Cape Dory 27 if you add up all of the work you will do to the Triton. The Triton is best left to people who likes to do boat projects. There are a couple of Tritons that are in excellent condition but they are extremely rare.

If I had the money and especially wanted good light air performance, I would go for the Alerion Express 28. No full keel sailboats can really compare to it but the Cape Dory 27 will do well in light airs if it has a nice sized genoa. Among the Alberg designs, the Cape Dory 27 has a good sail area to displacement ratio, among his better performing designs.

One nice example....

http://yachtworld.com/core/listing/b..._id=33226&url=

Oh by the way... you might want to check out Schock. They have a new Harbor 25 which kind of compete with the Alerion Express. Pretty but not as pretty, you know. New ones cost 70K or so. Might be too small for you though. They haven't really begun selling them, I think. Only have one hull so far.

http://www.santanasailboats.com/

Let us know what boat you eventually end up with!

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Hard to opt for a Triton rebuild after seeing that Cape Dory listing... a lot of boat - most of it quite attractive - for $23k. Definitely makes dropping $75+ for the Alerion that much harder to do. The Schock Harbor 25 is not as pretty, but they certainly do more with less... the interior is well thought out.

Ah, decisions decisions... part of what makes it fun. Thanks again for all your input, I'll keep you posted as my shopping progresses and ping you with developments.

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Have you considered a Stone Horse 23? It's a Sam Crocker design with a raised foredeck. It's comfortable enough for two below for a weekend, and the cockpit is fairly large. There are a number for sale on yachtworld.com right now, ranging from $15K to $27K. Not a speedster, but can hold her own.
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In the same 'boat'

Very thoughtful response, Casey.

I'm thinking the same thing, of a traditional, good looking, fast daysailer/weekender in the same price range. I'm leaning strongly towards a used AE28, too.

The Schock 25 is well featured, but it's lines aren't as handsome.

I'm in no rush, and look forward to sorting through my thoughts over the next year or so.
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J/100 - beautiful in person & great sailing pedigree
http://www.jboats.com/j100/

or C&C 99

http://www.c-cyachts.com/model/model...b-a61eae41d7de

But the Alerion is one sexy gal
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Yep, Chuteman, the J/100 is another fine choice. To me, it's just not as attractive as the Alerion 28. But, if I change my mind and consider 'modern line' daysailers, it would clearly be on the short, short list.
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Look for a Herreshoff Rozinante. They are simple, fast, able and beautiful.
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http://www.yachtworld.com/core/listi...ck&searchtype=

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look

"Although the A28 is probably better constructed, the J is probably not that far behind."

They are both made by TPI in Rhode Island. The quality and craftmanship are about the same (Both are made to high standards)

As far as what you're looking for.....fast, can sleep on for the weekend and nice lines, the Alerion is the boat. BUT, if you can stray from the "classic" looking lines of a boat....there are some great sailing Sabre's in that price range. Also, you can find (if you look hard enough)and older J105 (early hull#'s) that might sell at around $70,000 (although asking price will be higher)

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J/Boats and Alerion's are built by the same folks, TPI in Warren RI. Build quality is very likely to be identical. ie Very Good.

Just finished reading the WHOLE thread. Sorry for the redundancy guys.

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