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Labatt......Are you still looking for a P40. I was down in Annapolis last week and looked at Pelican....must be she is still for sale???? I'm looking for the forward berth model with head in the V so Pelican did not quite fit the bill......although she looked like a good boat.
We've just "closed" on Pelican. The brokerage we used - Martin Bird - has a Passport 40 for sale in Annapolis with the configuration you're looking for. It's over at Jabin's. You can give Bill Day (from Martin Bird) a call at 410-268-1086. He's been wonderful to work with.

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Chris,

You said, "It's missing a few odds and ends that we'll be adding - a small propane heater, wind instruments, radar, rudder angle indicator and most importantly - an electric windlass since we will be hauling 250'-300' of chain or rode up when we anchor in Lake Champlain."

Hey, I'd consider most of that a plus, since you'll be able to choose your own radar, wind instruments, windlass, etc. :-))

However, the "small propane heater" and "Lake Champlain" raised a flag with me. I don't know what kind of heater you're thinking about, but propane is dangerous stuff from several aspects. In northern climes, I'd strongly suggest a diesel-fired furnace such as the Espar or Webasto models. I've had an Espar on my boat for many years, and it's a joy. Clean, reliable, safe, efficient forced air heating throughout the boat, fueled from your main diesel tank.

If you do decide to go this route after investigation, I can recommend Ocean Options in Edgewater, MD (near Annapolis) for sales and installation. They're dealers for the Espar, and did a good job installing a new heater for me a few years ago.

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Oops...Ocean Options has now moved to Annapolis:

Ocean Options, Inc. (Mid-Atlantic Office)
7416 Edgwood Road
Annapolis, MD 21403
Phone: (410)268-9365
Fax: (410)268-8199

The Espar Airtronics D5LC (same unit I have on a Perry-designed 42' sloop) specs can be found here:

http://www.oceanoptions.com/espar_d5lc_d8lc.html

It's more than large enough to get you though the worst winter.

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Its a great boat, I am sure you will like it!
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Labatt, congratulations on the purchase. I think the problem with the wiring was that it was not tinned and therefore prone to rusting. Glad to hear the tanks were not an issue. Sounds like you got an excellant boat. There is a 1980 Alden 44 for sale (asking price of $149,000), which seemed to be a better deal than the Passpoart 40, but both boats have teek decks in need of refurbishing. Jay.
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However, the "small propane heater" and "Lake Champlain" raised a flag with me. I don't know what kind of heater you're thinking about, but propane is dangerous stuff from several aspects. In northern climes, I'd strongly suggest a diesel-fired furnace such as the Espar or Webasto models. I've had an Espar on my boat for many years, and it's a joy. Clean, reliable, safe, efficient forced air heating throughout the boat, fueled from your main diesel tank.
We're getting a quote on an Espar diesel furnace but the initial estimate was $6k. I didn't realize these things were so expensive! Is that right?

I'm already figuring out modifications... a very strange thing about the boat is that there is no deep cockpit lazarette to store fenders, lines, etc. On the other hand, almost the entire aft portion of the boat is empty. It's one of the best uses of wasted space I've seen. I'm assuming that they were planning on adding a genset, a/c and other large systems at a later date. Well, they didn't, and now I can rent it out as a condo! Anyway, I think I might have a glasser fashion a new lazarette. The black space in this pic (below) represents the open area (accessible by lifting the companionway stairs).



I'm thinking it won't be too expensive to do that.

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" an electric windlass since we will be hauling 250'-300' of chain or rode up when we anchor in Lake Champlain."

250'-300' of chain in Lake Champlain? Where you thinking of anchoring, the middle of the lake??

just kidding, sounds like a great boat!

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At a five-to-one scope, that's only 50-60'.
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250'-300' of chain in Lake Champlain? Where you thinking of anchoring, the middle of the lake??
LOL... have you sailed Champlain? The lake is incredibly deep all the way to the edges, formed by glaciers! In most places where we sail (between Westport to the South and Plattsburgh to the North) the edge of the lake is between 30 and 50 feet deep. In many other parts, the edge is over 100 feet deep! If we need to emergency anchor in a storm (we've done it more than once) and need to set at least a 6 to 1 scope in 50 feet of water we're talking about over 300 feet of chain!

If I was looking to anchor in the middle of the lake and wanted a 5 to 1 scope I'd need over 1000' of rode in the shallower spots. Champlain is deep!
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