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Nice home for Pelican

Labatt....in reading further above, I see that you're keeping her in Willsboro Bay. Great choice! The owners are great people. I've known them for close to 30 years as my business takes me to various marinas on a regular basis. This is for sure one of , if not....the best on the lake. Have a safe delivery and lets hear some good sea stories. Will be interested on how your trip thru the Champlain Canal goes.....
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If you're looking at the P40 on Long Island, I've heard the decks need A LOT of work and that it's not in the best shape. That's just rumor though... I know my broker looked at it for another customer of his and wasn't in love. I have to say though - the Passport 40 (in general) turned out to be an even better boat than I thought it would be. I thought she would be dog slow in lighter (sub 10 knot) winds and she does decently. She's very comfortable and you can pretty much throw anything you want at her.

Our mast is down now. We're a motorboat. We'll be doing the trip up the canal this weekend. I'm not excited about it - I like nice, wide open bodies of water. These rivers and canals just ain't my cup o' tea. Plus, with a 2 knot current against us it will be somewhat slow. I'll let you know how it goes.

Where will you be keeping your boat on Champlain? I'm thinking about trying to arrange for a "Sailnet Get Together" in Burlington sometime this summer.

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Hi Chris...yes we are looking at the one in NY. Had a good survey done last week and sea trial the same day in light 8-10 knots breezes......just what I was hoping for. I suspect she will perform well in the heavy stuff but the lighter air was a nice surprise. In 8 knots, when the puffs hit, she had a nice even slow weather helm. Good and responsive for such a heavy boat. Decks did need some work when I first looked at her last fall. Over the winter, the current owner had quite a few bungs pulled out, fasteners rebedded and new plugs put in. Also replaced some of the glass which was looking a bit foggy. The deck still has some suspicious spots but not a show stopper. Also have commissioned Bob Perry to help us along with the purchase. He infoms me that some of the early boats came thru with a checker board mahoganny inlay core which is much less prone to water creeping all over the deck once it gets in. Not sure if this is one of those boats. Just have to get a core sample to see. All in all the surveyor was pretty happy with what he found.
Regarding her possible new home.... We will keep her at the Lake Champlain Yacht Club in Shelburne at least for part of the summer. Plan is to haul in mid summer...maybe later, and store behind my boat shop for a couple of years of refit.
I also learned just today that there will be another P40 coming into Mallets Bay to the Moorings Marina next week. Someone purchased her out in Michigan I believe and will be keeping her here for a time.
We could have a P40 rendevous!!!
Will look forward to hooking up if all goes well.
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She definitely digs in when in the heavier stuff. I did find the cockpit doesn't drain as quickly as I hoped, but since I'll be doing mostly coastal stuff I'm not as concerned. I just found a spot on our deck where the teak is bowing a little bit. I'm a bit scared to see what's underneath, but we'll be checking it out in a couple of weeks. Congrats on yours - it seems to be a great boat! There's a Passport mailing list on sailnet too... Messages ... Let me know when you bring her up north. Perhaps we can escort you for part of the way if we're around! I'm thrilled to hear there will be such a huge contigent of P40's on the lake! We'll have to do a rendezvous somewhere on the lake. Keep in touch.

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I see Pelican at the dock

Hi Chris..I was over at Willsboro yesterday and saw that Pelican was nicely enjoying her new home . She certainly looks classy amoung all the other boats on the dock. How was the trip up?
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Are you the canvas maker that Andre told me stopped by?

Thanks for the "classy" comment. I've been feeling like she's looking a bit trampy lately There's still a big black scratch and smudge on the hull from a poor docking experience on our trip up the Hudson, and the cetol is in horrible shape along the topside teak. We spent a bunch of time this past weekend starting to sand it all down, so now it looks worse Half sanded, half splotchy old Cetol. Yippy! There are some pretty nice boats at Willsboro... a J40, CR42, Nauticat 36, a HR, a Sabre, a Tartan - and those were just at docks 4 and 5. I haven't peeked down the other ones yet

When are you bringing your P40 up? The trip up the Canal was a no brainer with two of us doing it. Locks 1-8 on Saturday (tied up AT lock 9 - huge area to tie up with a real head that's open until 10 (or overnight if they "forget" to lock up) and pizza delivery if you don't want to make food on the boat). Lock 9-Champlain Bridge Marina (they can put you on the fuel dock which isn't bad - we could have reached Westport or even Willsboro if we motored until 8pm, but we were tired). We went to Willsboro the next day but could have easily made Burlington or farther north.

The only troublesome lock was the Federal lock in Troy. You only get one place to hang on per vessel. It's a vertical rope or a vertical rod that's fixed in place. If you run a line from the stern forward, and the bow back, and you stand in the middle with the lines around the rod, you can use it as a pivot point. We figured this out AFTER a very hairy ride up. The rest of the locks have lines every 12 feet or so and you can grab a fore and aft one. Make sure you grab the lines on the same side as the wind as blowing FROM. If it's blowing west to east, keep your boat on the west side. The way the winds works, that will keep you pushed against the the west side of the lock. Otherwise you have to fight to keep the boat against the wall and from moving forward/backward. It got real easy after a while.

If you need mast braces for your trip up let me know. Ours are stored near Saratoga right now but we would gladly meet you in Catskill with them for a fellow P40 owner (depending on timing). We also have a cruising guide from the NYS Canal Authority. When are you heading North?

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Yes...that was me. As I mentioned earlier, I have been working at Willsboro for almost 30 years on and off and it is really a great spot to keep the boat and great owners.

The classy comment was definetly meant as a compliment. We have to remember that when we purchase a boat that is 23 years old, there is going to be some some work that is needed to "bring her back" but....when complete ( and not done overnight) she will be real looker!

We were going to go down this weekend coming up but due to some work commitments, we'll wait untill the weekend of 6/23. Leave about mid day from the dock and head for the Battery. Probably first night around the Throngs Neck Bridge, then continue on Sunday on up the Hudson. We are not going to rush too much but do have to get back for work commitments. Probably a 5 day trip.

Thanks for the tips in the locks. Neither of us have done the trip up yet but we've talked to alot who have and managed to pick out all the important info. Your comments were not ones that we have gotten as of yet so thanks....

Regarding the mast supports, we were just planning to get some wood at the lumber yard in Catskill. Its pretty easy to erect the supports. I'd hate to see you sacrifice some potentially good sanding time ! anyway.....we could keep in touch on that one. Did you leave the dodger up and build over it or did you drop everything and keep it rather low to the deck? I was kind of thinking that I'd at least like the dodger in place just in case it is a nasty day. ....makes for a nice place to sit in the open hatch with the overhead protection for the person not at the wheel.

Glad you made it safe and sound and look forward to meeting you.
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I'll have to see if this one has iron or lead. Apparently, lead ballast was a "popular option" for Passport 40's during this time. Thanks for the heads up! I didn't even realize that iron was standard on this boat!

what about the Passport 37 -Iron or lead keel? Anyone know....
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