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Great web site in the above post is and very humbling. I had not realised that so many others had circumnavigated in sub 20 footers.

I had read about Shane Acton and "SHRIMPY" before I went cruising in a 37 foot steel ketch and anytime it was a little hairy I would dig out my copy and read a bit.
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This boat (12') was a successful circumnavigator so yes it's possible in anything....


But ask yourself how comfortable you would be on your chosen boat for several weeks at sea (no land in sight). I have not personally done a long stint at sea, but know I couldn't do it in a boat like the one above, nor my current 25' Tri, I would want something bigger.

Most of the threads I have seen here about people looking for recommendations on blue water boat seem to be from people who are relatively new to sailing, or offshore sailing. Around here (Oz) the usual recommendation is you do some coastal trips in your boat, get comfortable with that first, after a few years of regular off shore sailing experience then consider a short blue water trip, this would be the point at which you decide whether your 30' boat is suitable or if you need a different boat.


For those interested here is a site that details both successful and not circumnavigation attempts in small boats (or bathtubs if you like ) Famous Small Boats

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We reccomend the same here (US) - but not everyone listens!! The reality is that many people buy the bullet proof tanks because they think it will make up for their lack of sailing (and seamanship skills). THey also would love to have a boat that can circum - even in reality most of them will never leave sight of land. What I have really been trying to bang into peoples head is that every boat has a tradeoff - and the tradeoff of a bulletproof shoe box for coastal is considerable. And remember - we are all coastal in reality. No one sails out to sea to just set there out at sea.

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So often the problem here too.... Personally I am working my skills back up after not having sailed for nearly 20 years (I can't believe I let it go that long between sails) So for the first dozen sails on my boat I took someone who had sailed recently (a colleague and my Step Dad). And I was an experienced off shore sailor 20 years ago, but being landlocked for 20 years makes you rusty and changing from mono's to a tri meant some new things to learn, so I took the cautious approach that I would advise others to take.

My plans are to start with this boat, get my skills back up then upgrade to a bigger boat that I can do some longer coastal hopping and spend a few weeks aboard at a time with the family, then maybe further down the track upgrade again to a comfortable live aboard.

Do as I do not as I say... oh hang on...... Never mind


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For my money, a Valiant, the cockpit is a bit small but acquaintances have one and they say it is a dream to sail with a great galley, good sea motion and bullet proof construction. The tumblehome stern is a thing of beauty unto itself.
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