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Endurance 35 information.

I've been looking at an Endurance 35 on sailboatlistings.com for the past couple weeks. The seller lists the boat as being built in 1980 but doesn't mention the builder's name (making me think it was a private builder). The seller states the hull is made up of Mahogany with fiberglass skin. That would be surprising since it seems the vast majority of these boats, especially privately built ones, are made from ferro-cement.

Does anyone have any experience with either a ferro-cement hulled boat or mahogany hulled boats? Anyone ever sail on an Endurance 35 that can tell me more about how she behaves? Things that i should advise a surveyor to check ( i can't myself, the boat is in maryland and i'm on the gulf coast). Anything else i might have missed?

I love the look of the boat and this particular one is cutter rigged rather than ketch. I'm looking for a very solid bluewater cruiser where speed is not nearly as important as safety and comfort. The endurance seems like a very solid boat from what i have read but there isn't too much information on them floating around.

ENDURANCE 35 sailboat specifications and details on sailboatdata.com
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Re: Endurance 35 information.

Endurances were built in Fiberglass by the DeKleer brothers (of Fraser fame) near Vancouver. Many were sold as kits (hull/deck and/or hull only)

Not a particularly inspired design and if this is a homebuilt you really need to be 'eyes wide open' all the time. Glass-over-wood can work quite well (there are thousands of homebuilt Thunderbirds out there) but there's always a possibilities of delamination and separation.

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"A highly thought of long-distance cruiser that has been built of wood, steel, ferro and GRP by amateur and professional builders around the world.
Designed as a Cutter or Ketch."
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Re: Endurance 35 information.

The way I read that ad 1980 Endurance 35 sailboat for sale in Maryland
Is that it is wood covered with fiberglass cloth. I would make sure the survey includes moisture readings taken from wood under fiberglass. Delamination is one thing, but water ingress into the wood core would be a deal breaker for me. There is a glut of good boats out there and no sense taking undue risks with wood core boats.

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I looked at an Endurance once that was glass over wood - home finished I believe - did not have a lot of confidence in it given the fit and finish - also been aboard a ferrocement one - it was beautiful , extremely well done - so I guess it just depends, I would want to know the original builder before I invested in one.
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That's the issue with any 'homebuilt'... You want one built by a very (multi) talented guy with full blown OCD.. not someone with the 'that'll do' mindset.

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Re: Endurance 35 information.

I'm believe I'm looking to buy the same boat, in Maryland. And I too query this hull design. Why did you not buy it, please?
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I'm believe I'm looking to buy the same boat, in Maryland. And I too query this hull design. Why did you not buy it, please?
Plans to take a trip to Maryland to personally inspect the boat fell through. Given the price reduction of the boat and the result of the presidential election, i have moved up my time table and am planning to make a trip to Maryland again.
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Plans to take a trip to Maryland to personally inspect the boat fell through. Given the price reduction of the boat and the result of the presidential election, i have moved up my time table and am planning to make a trip to Maryland again.
Good clean Boat needing (only) a motor seems well worth it good luck to someone. Looks extremely well trimmed inside.
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Re: Endurance 35 information.

If I had to choose between ferrocement and glass sheathed wood on a 36 year old home build I know what my choice would be.

Ferro every time.

While repairing a double diagonal glass sheathed boat is possible finding someone willing to tackle it will be very difficult. This is technology from a bygone age.
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