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Re: Ranger 24?

So after some research,
from a combined PHRF averages db site on-line, and from an old friend that raced a Ranger 24 many starts a season for way over a decade...
I would go with about 200 for a base rating for the Ranger 26-1, and about 240 for the Ranger 24.

Kinda sorta significant, but then given the differing lengths, still an apples-to-oranges comparison.
And, this reveals nothing about their sea-keeping abilities, construction, and engineering.

Any owner of either boat will likely be happy with his/her choice.
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Re: Ranger 24?

Hey Richman7777,

I just began the proud owner of a '74 KR24. Info online is hard to find, do you have any recommendations of where to look?

there's a scan of a fax of a copy from someone with a username 'socrates' who had it posted a while ago but even that has disappeared

thanks in advance for the help and the info in your post
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Hey Richman7777,

I just began the proud owner of a '74 KR24. Info online is hard to find, do you have any recommendations of where to look?

there's a scan of a fax of a copy from someone with a username 'socrates' who had it posted a while ago but even that has disappeared

thanks in advance for the help and the info in your post
The Ranger Boat factory in Kent, WA, never used any slick (full bleed printing) brochures, back in the day. They would used offset printed flyers. If you want a digital copy, I may have one around here somewhere. I used to be a dealer for them, circa 1980.
Sidebar: I suspect that archival material will become more scarce, after the formal disbanding of the Ranger 20 National Assn, a few years ago.

If you wish, I believe that you can email me by clicking on my name here and choosing a contact option.

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Re: Ranger 24?

The things I stated are not opinions. It's also not a secret that the Kent Ranger 24 isn't fast. It's something like a 288 PHRF compared to the 198 of the Ranger 26'. Mind you, I like the Ranger 26. If it weren't for the nigh-mare of potential repairs I'd consider one. My boat has nearly no maintenance. I've had her for over three years (in the salt water) and I've just applied a couple coats of teak oil and brushed the bottom every year.

All of that said... most sailboats are exactly the same speed - slow. You can split hairs if you like, but we get there at the same time... give or take 50 seconds. While you are replacing your deck, floor and other ill-designed features I will just sail. Guess who wins that one?
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Re: Ranger 24?

The KR24 has a core-less solid fiberglass deck? That is very unusual and would make it quite heavy.

Most sailboats (especially smaller cruisery ones like this) on the water have solid fiberglass hulls. That isn't unusual at all.

I've never sailed a KR24, but there used to be one next to me in a marina. The engine compartment seemed like it had some major downsides: it takes a lot of space on an already small boat and you can't kick the engine up out of the water as easily for improved sailing performance.

They aren't uncommon around Seattle, there are quite a few listed per year on Craigslist and I've seen them in Duck Dodge and at local marinas.
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Re: Ranger 24?

That 288 phrf for a ranger 24 is about 40 secs slow compared to the ones I race against to a degree in the Seattle area. There were two that Renton sailing own that were at 237 NFS at a race last spring. The 26 at 198 is on par for the base on those that I race against. One in my club is in the 230 range with a small jib also racing nfs too.

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Re: Ranger 24?

I make decent speed (5.5-6.5 knots or less in light wind average) with my KR24 but won't pretend it's a very viable racer because you can't take the motor out of the water to race... that costs you about a half knot off the top. That said, I guess racing isn't everything.

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Yes, the deck is solid. It's not really heavy because most of the deck is very thin. It's only thick where it needs to be strong. The boat weighs 3150 pounds dry with a 1400 pound keel.

I haven't tried this yet, but I plan to. How about calling Ray Richards to ask about the KR24? Richards, Raymond H, Phone: (949) 642-6592?

I have the original invoice for my boat as well as the factory brochure - but it's all 'chicken-scratched' up with the sail selection drawings of the buyer, or salesman - not sure which.

They are not a very flat bottom boat. That's good and bad. They are about the smoothest rough water boat you will encounter but all that smoothness costs you in speed. I'm not pretending I won't be slower than most boats like a San Juan 24' but I will be safer and I'll have more usable space inside by a margin. I wouldn't pretend it would be as fast as nearly any 28' boat - that would be silly. But neither does the Dana 24' pretend to be fast and I can sail circles around the Dana... and have, since a buddy owns one and I did that as a point to rib him with over a glass of wine and many laughs. They are different boats designed for different purposes.
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Re: Ranger 24?

As for comparing to the SJ24, I watched the two one design fleets race together for years. Speed around the course was 'bout the same. The Ranger did handle heavy air spinnaker runs a LOT better than the SJ.
For racing, all of the Ranger 24's here would take the engine out of the well and store it in the seat locker. There is a stock plug that goes into the bottom of that well.

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Re: Ranger 24?

That's great information, thanks! I'd love to find one of those plugs! But if the boat isn't over-loaded the water doesn't touch it anyway. As for taking the motor out to race: I was told that wouldn't comply with the rules... but I admit I'm not really an educated racer. My motor is a little big for that anyway (7.5 hp Honda) but I'd like to get a much smaller one... just for grins. New sails are on the horizon too. I don't have a chute yet, so that could happen too, though it's less of a priority since I don't race her... yet. I probably will in the future.

As for the "My boat is awesome and yours sucks!" mentality is concerned: I think they're all awesome - but in different ways.

As an aside: Here is a guy taking a bone stock SJ24 around the globe. No comm equipment, no mods and no autopilot of any kind. I hope he survives. You can follow him here...

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And if you have a line on a motor well plug for my boat... I'd be very happy to have one!!
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Re: Ranger 24?

So, as luck would have it I was able to find a plug for the motor-well just yesterday. It fits nicely and I can't wait to sail with the motor out of the water and no drag from the hole. I'm really looking forward to being able to hold my own in the races. Now... if I just had better sails.

As an aside: The gentleman I bought the plug from is selling his KR24 in Seattle. I think he said he's asking $3800 but lowering $100/week until it sells. He bought a KR26 so he could have more room. He did say the KR24 will sail circles around the KR26 - no surprise since they are totally different boats with different design goals.

I must also stand corrected on the probable PHRF rating of the KR24. 240 minus pennies is probably around the right number based on what those here say and what I've found from others who have owned one and raced. I have friends who race SJ 24s all the time including one who wins his class pretty much wherever he goes. I plan to sail with him on my boat in the near future to learn a bit and get his opinion on the boat itself.

I'd love to see other KR24s too. If anyone is interested in exchanging pictures or organizing a rendezvous of type for next season I think that would be very fun! Email me at newrasb@juno.com and I'll give you my information. I know there is an active KR26 club but I don't know of anything for the KR24. The boats are amazing, so I'm learning. They are very solid as most know. Would love to know how many of the 65 (?) that were made still exist.

Now... on to look for new sails - or "like new". If you have anything, let me know.
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