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What would you buy for $100,000?

Denr,

People like myself read these forums in order to learn from other sailorís experience, and knowledge. We are looking for useful, credible arguments supported by tangible facts. You lose all credibiltiy with people like myself when you make unsubstantiated criticism of Beneteaus, Hunters and Catalinas.

If you have something worthwhile to contribute, please do. If not, please donít waste my time, and that of other interested readers.

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What would you buy for $100,000?

Ariel...now wasn''t that a character in one of Walt Disney''s fantasy movies? I just returned from the Strictly Sail Show in Chicago and came to the conclusion by my observation that the people that design and build the mediocre boats you love so dearly, have probably never cruised, raced or for that matter sailed on one of their creations! It is not only the three biggest sailboat builders in the states that are guilty of this, but also many other builders from Europe. It seems as if the design emphasis on the new production boats is on dockside living and entertainment rather than service/maintainability, quality of craftsmanship, creative and beautiful designs, and most importantly good sailing characteristics. Some of the more noteworthy oversights were:

-Lifelines way to short to serve their purpose, stanchions poorly fastened to the deck.
-Wingding keels that appear to be designed for draft, not hydrodynamic performance
-Picnic tables cluttering up the cockpit
-Cheesy hardware
-Dual wheels with engine controls only at one pod
-Anchor lockers with poorly designed handles and hardware
-Huge cavernous cabins with no handholds and very little storage
-Winches and turning block placement in and around the cockpit based on convienence rather than their function.
-Engines very difficult to service, even for simple stuff like oil changes.
-Huge fixed ports that look as if they could be stove-in by a big wave.
-Non-skid so poorly designed itís doubtful it is functional.
-Sinks set outboard in the galley that would never drain when the boat is heeled over.
-Shallow and small cockpit lockers barely big enough for a few dock lines and a maximum of two fenders.
-Roller shade main sails.

The above are things that can be seen, how much attention do you think is paid to those details that are out of sight? Makes me nervous!

As far as wasting your time Mr./Ms Ariel, you can choose to read my posts or not, I donít care. It sounds as if you might be living in fantasy land anyway if you truly believe that the Benehuntalinas are great boats, at best they are a way to get out on to the water and that is alright in my book! For my money, I want something better.
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What would you buy for $100,000?

what do you think of the amel?
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What would you buy for $100,000?

Totally coincidental, I''m wishing to trade up and my boat ''Daze Off'' (an aluminium 3.5ft draft Bermudan Cutter) is for sale. Before you decide, at least have a look at <http://us.geocities.com/moredazeoff/>
and then you''ll be able to see what £100,000 buys
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Though this is an old thread, it started out with some very helpful posts.

The question is still a good one. Now that a few years have passed, what are today's recommendations for a high-quality performance cruiser for under $100k?
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Just curious, but what do you guys have against catamarans?
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Just curious, but what do you guys have against catamarans?
Nothing a sawz-all wouldn't fix.

Just kidding. I like them in theory, but have yet to find one that isn't ugly. Personal opionion only. Other opinions may vary.
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Sailing the ICU and the Chesapeake bay in your perfect boat is just wonderful. A perfect boat is of course never to be had. We are not talking blue water ocean crossing boats to say the least. Buying a heavy and deep draft boat would be a mistake. You need to cross many shallow areas in the ICW and need to manover into and out of slips with tight clearances with the wind and current so a full keel is out. Hunters do offer updated living spaces especially for families and are easy to steer into those tight slips. You will get more boat with a Hunter for the money. Buying new is desireable with the warranty that comes along with the boat for peace of mind.
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Why don't look at a clean late 1980's Morgan Center Cockpit 40 footer. It will serve your purposes and would be a perfect boat for sailing the Chesapeake.
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what would i buy with a 100k...

First, I'd buy some booze, then, some broads...

then I'd blow the rest.

Oh, you were talking about a boat?
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