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Downsizing - J22, Capri 21, any thoughts?

Hi Everybody -

I am in process of selling my trustee Pearson 30 - I need a smaller boat that I can keep on a trailer and sail on the Hudson R. - preferably a boat that requires minimal maintenance but still gives me the well-balanced helm. I like the J-22 although I am worried that a J-22 in my price range (10K max) will come with potential structural problems. I like the Capri 21 - it looks nice and seems to get good reviews but am not sure if the sailing capabilities will be there? Anyone have any thoughts on this?

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I crewed on a j22 for a couple of years that belongs to a friend of mine. I can tell you that if I were going to downsize to another daysailor it would be the J22, without question. I would consider it one of the fastest boats that can be sailed in a wide variety of conditions that you can buy for the money. With standard rigging a crew of 2 can sail and race. (I've seen it raced solo, but you have to really know the boat.) With a few changes you could easily single hand.

There are plenty out there that can be had for < 10K. They may need a little polish, but otherwise in good shape. I know of one that sold recently for <9K with 2 suits of sails and newly faired keel, with float off trailer. What part of the country are you in?
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I have owned a J22 and sailed a Capri 22. Both are very nice boats, sail well, and are a lot of fun. The Capri is a bargain next to the J, and probably a bit more comfortable. If you are in a J22 fleet, nothing else will do. Otherwise, the Capri is a good choice.
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J22 vs Capri 22

I own a 2002 Capri 22 and think it's a great boat. The J22 is also and will rate somewhat faster but the Capri 22 is definitely a better value and more accomodating on the interior if you plan to do anything but race. Here is a link to my review of the boat. There are several other Capri 22 owner reviews there as well. I used to own a J30 and am a big Jboat fan as well. Either is a great choice and both are excellent sailing boats.

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Thanks for the info - once I have sold my present boat I will probably just make a survey of the J-22s and Capris in my area and then make some kind of decision. One other boat that has been mentioned is the Ultimate 20 but it looks almost as expensive as a used Corsair...
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Agreed that J-22 is the choice for the Hudson. Hint: the afternoon thermals on the East side of the river in the afternoon will keep you ghosting along, no matter how windless the day.
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Re: Downsizing - J22, Capri 21, any thoughts?

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Agreed that J-22 is the choice for the Hudson. Hint: the afternoon thermals on the East side of the river in the afternoon will keep you ghosting along, no matter how windless the day.

Tough to gost against 1Kt+ currents.

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Re: Downsizing - J22, Capri 21, any thoughts?

I've owned a J22 and will tell you it's a great boat!! I know of no known structural issues that would keep me from owning another one. The J24, another great boat, is a different story. Regardless, any boat's issues can be addressed.

I would vote for the J22. Yup, I'm biased. The boat is a great racer as well as day sailor. That said, I've never read a bad review of the Capri 22. it is reported as a highly responsive and fun boat to sail. And, like you, it would be on my short list of fun boats to sail. Maybe, get on both boats and take them for a spin.

About the Jboat - find one with a trailer. Triad single axle is the standard trailer for that boat.

I've seen perfectly buyable J22s, with trailer, for as low as $6000 asking. I'm sure there are even less expensive ones to be had.

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Agreed that J-22 is the choice for the Hudson. Hint: the afternoon thermals on the East side of the river in the afternoon will keep you ghosting along, no matter how windless the day.
Ghosting againsst a 1 kt. current and you go backwards :-(

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Re: Downsizing - J22, Capri 21, any thoughts?

I recognize that "hershey" who owns a Capri 22...
I owned a Capri 22, and have sailed on a J/22... The J/22 is hands down a blast to sail... but for $10k... Buy an older Capri 22, and put the extra $5k in sails! Then you can outsail the $10k J/22 with worn out sails!

Seriously the Capri 22 is a great sailing boat.. it's NOT as fast as the J/22 but the parts are cheaper, it's cheaper to buy, cheaper to maintain, if you get the wing keel model it's easier to launch, it's easier to solo sail...

NOW - if you plan to race ONLY (probably not yet).. and you have a J/22 fleet nearby, stretch NOW for the J/22 (you'll get crew quickly).

For a starter keel boat, the Capri 22 is a slam dunk... It just is... if you race it in Handicapped fleets, it does OK as well. The BEST model Capri to find is the Fin Keel, tall rig, first generation... but it'll also be the hardest to solo sail and launch. The easiest to learn on is the Regular rig, newest generation wing keel model.

If you want to ask questions about the Capri 22, check out http://http://www.capri22.net/phpbb/ forum. No I get nothing out of the forum... and it's the class association for the Capri 22.

For the record the J/22 class association is http://www.j22.com/
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