Survey for a $5k boat? - SailNet Community

   Search Sailnet:

 forums  store  


Quick Menu
Forums           
Articles          
Galleries        
Boat Reviews  
Classifieds     
Search SailNet 
Boat Search (new)

Shop the
SailNet Store
Anchor Locker
Boatbuilding & Repair
Charts
Clothing
Electrical
Electronics
Engine
Hatches and Portlights
Interior And Galley
Maintenance
Marine Electronics
Navigation
Other Items
Plumbing and Pumps
Rigging
Safety
Sailing Hardware
Trailer & Watersports
Clearance Items

Advertise Here






Go Back   SailNet Community > On Board > Boat Review and Purchase Forum
 Not a Member? 


Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools
  #1  
Old 02-08-2007
Razman23's Avatar
Professional Sun Bather
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Posts: 26
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Rep Power: 0
Razman23 is on a distinguished road
Survey for a $5k boat?

I am looking at a 1985 Neptune 24 sailboat that lists about $5k. Is it worth the price of hiring a surveyor for this boat?
__________________
Raz

~~~_/)~~~
'Have a great sail day!'
Reply With Quote Share with Facebook
  #2  
Old 02-08-2007
PBzeer's Avatar
Wandering Aimlessly
 
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: Cruising
Posts: 19,722
Thanks: 0
Thanked 77 Times in 74 Posts
Rep Power: 14
PBzeer has a spectacular aura about PBzeer has a spectacular aura about PBzeer has a spectacular aura about
Would depend on how well you know boats and their systems. Basically, on a boat that size, the main concern is the hull, deck and rigging. I would expect minimal electrical or plumbing systems.
__________________
John
Ontario 32 - Aria

Free, is the heart, that lives not, in fear.
Full, is the spirit, that thinks not, of falling.
True, is the soul, that hesitates not, to give.
Alive, is the one, that believes, in love.
JCP


To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
- Website & Blog

To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
Reply With Quote Share with Facebook
  #3  
Old 02-08-2007
Jotun's Avatar
Space cadet
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: KSQ, PA, USA
Posts: 396
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Rep Power: 9
Jotun is on a distinguished road
If you plan on not hiring a surveyor, you should at least read through Casey's book, "Inspecting the Aging Sailboat."

I asked a similar question about hiring a surveyor for an inexpensive boat here some time ago and someone responded, it depends on how important your $5K is. Or something to that effect. How important is it?
Reply With Quote Share with Facebook
  #4  
Old 02-08-2007
sailingdog's Avatar
Telstar 28
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: New England
Posts: 43,291
Thanks: 0
Thanked 9 Times in 9 Posts
Rep Power: 13
sailingdog is just really nice sailingdog is just really nice sailingdog is just really nice sailingdog is just really nice sailingdog is just really nice
If the deck is delaminating, or there are other major structural issues with the boat, the survey will have paid for itself... In some ways, a survey is just as important on a smaller boat, and usually costs less per foot, due to the simpler systems on a smaller boat.

That said, some surveyors won't bother with a smaller boat...since there isn't enough money in it for them. Given that it is still basically winter, probably the slow season for surveyors, you can probably get a survey done at a reasonable price.

Jotun's suggestion about reading and using the checklists from Don Casey's book is an excellent one.
__________________
Sailingdog

To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

Telstar 28
New England

You know what the first rule of sailing is? ...Love. You can learn all the math in the 'verse, but you take
a boat to the sea you don't love, she'll shake you off just as sure as the turning of the worlds. Love keeps
her going when she oughta fall down, tells you she's hurting 'fore she keens. Makes her a home.

—Cpt. Mal Reynolds, Serenity (edited)

If you're new to the Sailnet Forums... please read this
To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
.

Still—DON'T READ THAT POST AGAIN.
Reply With Quote Share with Facebook
  #5  
Old 02-08-2007
pigslo's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Posts: 804
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Rep Power: 10
pigslo is on a distinguished road
The biggest item on that boat to make it worth less than zero is a bad deck. Second item in cost, the rigging, third the sails. My freind just bought a 5,000 dollar boat for 2,000. His arguement in not getting the survey was that if he uses it for 2 years and gives it to the boy scouts he is o.k. with that. At 5,000 you are probably closer to retail value and a survey may keep you from paying 5,000 for a 3,000 dollar boat. If you decide not to get a survey, tap the deck, ask how old the rig is and examine the rig and sails during a sea trial. Minimum... do a sea trial.
pigslo
Reply With Quote Share with Facebook
  #6  
Old 02-08-2007
BarryL's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: Long Island, NY
Posts: 1,578
Thanks: 3
Thanked 23 Times in 22 Posts
Rep Power: 11
BarryL is on a distinguished road
Hi Roz,

I bought my first boat, a 1981 Catalina 22, without a survey and it worked out just fine. The boat was simple - outboard engine, nothing complicated on the interior (electrical, plumbing, etc), no thru hulls. The boat was on a trailer so I could inspect everything. The owner ran the out board so I knew that was fine. The sails were less than 10 years old, the deck had no soft spots.

I sailed the boat for a year, did nothing other than paint the keel, and sold it a year later for $500 less than I paid for it.

Barry
Reply With Quote Share with Facebook
  #7  
Old 02-08-2007
camaraderie's Avatar
moderate?
 
Join Date: May 2002
Location: East Coast
Posts: 13,878
Thanks: 0
Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts
Rep Power: 15
camaraderie is a jewel in the rough camaraderie is a jewel in the rough camaraderie is a jewel in the rough
Roz...If you can get a surveyor locally to take a look at her for a set price and without having to write up a report, but just for advice...that may protect your investment. Let's face it...if you could afford a $10k boat...you'd be looking at one, so the $5K is a big chunk of change for you and you put it all at risk if you don't have the skill to analyze a boat yourself and buy it anyway.
Reply With Quote Share with Facebook
  #8  
Old 02-08-2007
ianhlnd's Avatar
A little less cheek
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Valparaiso bound
Posts: 752
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Rep Power: 10
ianhlnd will become famous soon enough ianhlnd will become famous soon enough
Good advice all, but, no matter what, you may need a written survey to obtain insurance. I'm going back south this fall, and because my last survey was like, 4 years old, I have to get another in order to obtain insurance -from the same company I had last trip-????
Reply With Quote Share with Facebook
  #9  
Old 02-08-2007
can't re member
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Posts: 318
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Rep Power: 8
yotphix is on a distinguished road
Ian your friend seems very nice!
Reply With Quote Share with Facebook
  #10  
Old 02-10-2007
Razman23's Avatar
Professional Sun Bather
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Posts: 26
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Rep Power: 0
Razman23 is on a distinguished road
Well, here is the story on the boat.

The orginal owner was behind on slip fees. The marina snatched it for non payment of such. So now I am thinking that they are just wanting at least to get back the past due fees and maybe make some change on top of that.

Here is a link to the boat itself. The boat was left alone for quit a while as you can tell. Any comments on said vessel?

http://www.yachtworld.com/core/listi..._id=43426&url=
__________________
Raz

~~~_/)~~~
'Have a great sail day!'
Reply With Quote Share with Facebook
Reply


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools

 
Posting Rules
You may post new threads
You may post replies
You may post attachments
You may edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Boat "examination" instead of a survey Pamlicotraveler Boat Review and Purchase Forum 8 08-23-2006 03:31 PM
Naming and Renaming Your Boat Sue & Larry Buying a Boat Articles 0 12-15-2003 07:00 PM
Fine-Tuning the Autopilot, Part Two Dan Neri Gear and Maintenance Articles 0 10-13-2003 08:00 PM
Understanding the Racing Rules, Part Three Dean Brenner Racing Articles 0 09-09-2002 08:00 PM
The Balance of Hull and Sails Steve Colgate Learning to Sail Articles 0 05-25-2000 08:00 PM


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 09:04 AM.

Add to My Yahoo!         
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
SEO by vBSEO 3.6.1
(c) Marine.com LLC 2000-2012