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Narrowing our list of boats...

We're looking at used boats and have finally narrowed our list to the following: Beneteau First 37.5's, Ericson 38's, Cal 39's, and O'Day 39's (Jeanneau)- any pluses/minueses to these? Opinions? I know style is a matter of taste.

We want a well-built, reasonably priced racer/cruiser (cruiser/racer) that's comfortable for weekend and week-long coastal cruising with another couple or family. We currently sail a C&C 35' Mk I and have had it for six years- we love it, but need more space and privacy. We race on weekends and Weds. nights, too, so we are trying to avoid an all-out cruiser. It's a balancing act.

We're looking at these models this weekend/next week- any opinions would be appreciated or anything we should be on the lookout for.....

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If I had to vote, it would be the First. Not a real comfortable cruiser, but a better racer. I am sure Giu will have some choice commets for me, though. Of course, you could get a MacGregor and win everytime!!! Just kidding. Of those four, I would get the Bene for that application, but I am not a racer if I can help it (though I have raced on a First).

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We're looking at used boats and have finally narrowed our list to the following: Beneteau First 37.5's, Ericson 38's, Cal 39's, and O'Day 39's (Jeanneau)- any pluses/minueses to these? Opinions? I know style is a matter of taste.
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We're looking at these models this weekend/next week- any opinions would be appreciated or anything we should be on the lookout for.....

Thanks.
I think these are all nice boats, but I think the Ericson 38 is the pick of the litter. The 38 is a bigger version of the 35 II. Our last time in the market, we lost a bidding war for a 35 II before closing on a CS 36T. I think you'll find the interior finish and exterior design pleasing, very sweet. The Cal 39 is a good sailer, but is an older design and ougtht to run $10-20K less than an Ericson, making it a good choice if $$ decide. Not much to say for the Beneteau or Jenneau (my ownership of a First 30E was a brief, unsatisfactory experience, be sure to try out the double bunks with your significant other and consider ventilation), other than they are a cut below the Ericson IMHO.

I concur with SD's comments on the Beneteau if racing were the primary consideration, as long as the version you select doesn't have a relatively short mast (as the 30E did).

PS there's an Ericson 38 at HYC should you want to speak with an owner..

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Thanks for the replies. We're looked at an Ericson 38, O'Day 39, and Cal 39 today- we'll look at the Beneteau 37.5's next week along with a few more Ericson 38's.

All around favorite was the Ericson so far- nice lines and seemed extremely solid and interior was nice/different- not cookie-cutter. Cal was a solid boat, just more traditional, and yes, less $$$ with great space below, so still not completely out of contention...
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I think the Cal 39 and the Bene will be the best sailors for beer can races. I used to sail the Cal 39, no aft cabin if I remember correctly? Could be a problem for couples. I looked at the Bene First and could not see myself spending a week on it with other couples unless it was over 40 feet. Looked at the Ericson 28 and 35mkII, seemed very solid. Like you said, matter of taste. Good luck, have fun, and buy what fits.
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Thanks for all the posts.

We looked at a Cal 39 MkIII (? I think) which had an aft cabin.
The one we looked at needed A LOT of cosmetic (and non-cosmetic) work, but seemed solid overall.

After 6 months of searching, we ended up buying a Pearson 36-2 (not on the narrow list!). We really liked the 38' Ericsons but couldn't find one that didn't need at least $10K+ in work at a decent price.
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Congrats... what will you be naming her, or are you keeping the old name?
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We'll be renaming her "Aquavit" - any suggestions on how to officially rename a boat? Any kind of ceremony we should be aware of? We are slightly superstitious, but name must be changed...

We thought of just toasting to her with a shot (or two) of her namesake!
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John Vigor's boat renaming ceremony is probably the way to go. See this site.
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