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Almost definitely better to find a boat on a trailer already...a new trailer is going to set you back at least 1500. Check out this website: www.boatforsale.net The boats are primarily on Lake Ontario, but if you're buying it on a trailer that's not a big deal. Remember that the prices are listed in Canadian dollars.

There is a broker in the Niagara area that specialises in "fixer-uppers" - http://www.yachtware.net/ you might be able to find something there. Headroom is going to be a bit difficult to find in your price range, but if you see something that you like, don't be afraid to put in a lowball offer. Mention that you had to pay for your kid's new wheelchair and that's all you could scrape together right now....

In the longterm, you might find it's worth saving up a little more and getting a slightly larger boat. Anything inexpensive that you buy, is going to require some time and money in improvements, and it is hard to recoup these when you sell. So if you sink the money into something that you end up keeping for a little while...it isn't going to cost as much in the long run.

Also give thought to the rigging process. Before you buy your boat, check out the clubs and marinas in your area to see if there is one that offers "drysailing", where you can take the boat out of the water on the trailer to store it between sails, but can still leave the mast up. If you have to take the mast down between sails, then concentrate on really small boats, because raising a 26 foot boat's mast and securing all the rigging is not something you can do in fifteen or twenty minutes.
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"If you have to take the mast down between sails, then concentrate on really small boats, because raising a 26 foot boat's mast and securing all the rigging is not something you can do in fifteen or twenty minutes."

Absolutley correct. The only reason I'm here at this keyboard today instead of out on the lake is I don't have my stepping system put together yet. Even my little 23 has a 28' mast.
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Making up an A-frame to raise the mast with is relatively simple to do, and relatively inexpensive. If you have questions on how to do it. let me know...

While I don't need help raising the mast on my boat, since I can do it with one hand in about 15 minutes... even though the mast is over 35' long, I have helped design mast-raising systems for other boats, and while they're relatively easy and safe to use, but work better if you have two people.
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Am I correct in the assumption that if I find a boat without a trailer, it will be next to impossible (read:expensive) to find a trailer for the boat?
I had a trailer built for my Grampian 26 by
Loadmaster Trailers
Port Clinton OH
http://www.loadmastertrailerco.com/index.htm

cost was about $4700.00 for the 10K pound cap version.

Based on the winter storage fees for a boat on the hard around
the Great Lakes - the break even point is about 3 years. Plus you get
to have the boat where you can grin at it - instead of worrying if
she is being "mistreated"

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what about the pacific seacraft Flicka.
I have three for sale at differing price points.
these little gals have circumnavigated and are built to withstand anything lake eerie could possibly dish out.
here is a link to some flicka chatter:

http://www.smallcraftadvisor.com/flicka.html

and this is where we sell them....

http://www.yachtworld.com/core/listi...12007:74654:32


of course i am looking to sell a boat, but have a good read and this little boat will surprise you. We are a pacific seacraft dealer in california, the closest dealer to the factory.
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Alex...your cheapest is over 10x his stated budget. We do not permit unpaid commercial advertising but am leaving this post as it was in response to a question.
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There was a Flicka in Sheboygan, WI for $20,000 recently. Forget where I saw it posted. I'm depressed because it's not mine, not going to be mine, never will be mine, I'm losing my mine mind.
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I trailer and launch for a friend a Hunter 25. Not a bad boat for your requirements. Would make a great little weekender.

She sails Lake Michigan, very similar conditions to Erie; Erie is shallower but we have a three hundred mile fetch from North to South.

It has water ballast, (so its easy to trailer), you can add ballast when you get to the lake, and its easy to rig. (Rigging can be done singlehanded if you know what you are doing.)

Catalina also has a line of smaller trailer sailors that look very appealing.

Not trailerable but something to consider is an older Cal. Cal 25's were very popular on the great Lakes back in their day. You should be able to find a 25 or 25-II if not in your budget, than just outside of it.

The 25-II has stand up headroom in the salon and makes a great pocket cruiser. Very heavy for a 25 footer, not the best in light air. Not trailerable, but you might want to look into mooring fees for you area.

Maybe a can would work, they are a lot less expensive than slips and should not be very much for a 25' boat. Than again you would have to figure yard fee's and winter storage into the equation.

If you really want a trailerable, than I would look at the Hunters or Catalinas.

Best of luck to you.
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Wow! Thanks for all the responses, guys!

Speaking of moorings,
does anyone perhaps know of any spots I could moor for a season in the Cleveland area inexpensively? The areas that I know of in Mentor are $800/season, and I am wondering if there are any cheaper areas than the prime-time harbors (the only ones that actually have websites!)

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As you alredy know, theres nothing cheap about boating.
I have no idea what prices are in your area but I will attach some links for you to look at. Good Luck.

http://marinas.com/view/marina/606

http://marinas.com/view/marina/605

http://marinas.com/view/marina/7720

http://marinas.com/view/marina/765

There certainly is not a shortage of marinas in Cleveland.
You'll have to make some calls and see what rates are.
Like I said earlier, if you can find a harbor that uses mooring cans, they are a lot cheeper. I didn't see any in the quick searching I did, but I only took a short time to look at them.
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