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Data doesn't always provide a real picture but for what it's worth - I know these are asking prices. A statistically non-valid 5 minute search of Yachtworld (national search) results yielded - throwing out the high and low valued boats:

Yr 2000- 2001
size 42 ft

Hunter $165k - $237k 9 boats for sale
Catalina $169k - $195k 16 boats
Beneteau $132k - $162k 5 boats

If someone wanted to take a look at a wider range and provide the data, this might provide some empirical evidence to actually show which holds it's value more.
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The catalina 36 is a very comfortable live aboard, a very good sailing boat, and is considered classic plastic by many magazines. It has been recently written up in the latest Boat US magazine, and has many, many other publications about it. The Boat US did a good job of ephasizing the good and bad. However, I am very familiar with this boat and it is well built given that it is a production boat. WIth the fold up table and small coffee table to the side, it makes it feel much more spacious than other designs. The MKII is the better of the 2, so if I was shopping, that is what I would look for (though I think that will be fine because of your time slot anyways, and I think there are only MKII's in that slot). The 36 is also good for island hopping and cruising and you can review some of the writeups, but they are all over the world (including one in France right now, finished ENgland). I do NOT NOT NOT say this is a ocean crosser, though many have done it. But, it is a good island hopper and liveaboard. The only real negative I will throw out for this boat is it is difficult to fit a generator in there. We put one in the saloon under the table, but that eats up a bunch of the space. The cost of doing this will never be recouped (as it is going to be a good 13-15k). You really need to get into a 380 to get some of that money back. Still, you can have air conditioning at the dock and I will be honest, even in the middle of summer in S Florida, we will have to close down the hatches as we get chilled if there is much wind at all (when anchored). The 36 is reasonably priced and will fit your needs.

Mainsheet is the technical magazine for Catalinas. I am obviously a member. I will be happy to give you more information and direct you to the folks that run that section.

There are other boats that do well too - but I am not deeply familiar with them. I have looked at a Morgan OI, a Islander, and benes for my parents who are looking too (though their budget is a bit higher).

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A broken record..

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Data doesn't always provide a real picture but for what it's worth - I know these are asking prices. A statistically non-valid 5 minute search of Yachtworld (national search) results yielded - throwing out the high and low valued boats:

Yr 2000- 2001
size 42 ft

Hunter $165k - $237k 9 boats for sale
Catalina $169k - $195k 16 boats
Beneteau $132k - $162k 5 boats

If someone wanted to take a look at a wider range and provide the data, this might provide some empirical evidence to actually show which holds it's value more.
KIVSK,
You did an almost identical post above about three weeks ago, and got this response:
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K1VSK...One of the gross ways in which your sample is distorted is that ALL 6 Beneteau 42's on the yachtworld site are in Europe or Asia. With the dollar so badly devalued...you can't make international price comparisons like that. Furthermore...there is no background on the boats but Bene's are far more likely to be charter boats than the other two so one would expect lower prices.
The only real way to compare these brands I think is at the boat shows for similarly equipped boats new. They are usually pretty close.
Why toss it out again?
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You didn't read my response to cam- or maybe did and choose to ignore it?
Regardless, I said that I selected only U.S. listed boats and clealy excluded the top and bottom prices to compensate for charter boat price devaluation.

If resale value is a consideration to the person who posted the question, what would not be relevant in this response?
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Dumb exercise

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You didn't read my response to cam- or maybe did and choose to ignore it?
Regardless, I said that I selected only U.S. listed boats and clealy excluded the top and bottom prices to compensate for charter boat price devaluation.

If resale value is a consideration to the person who posted the question, what would not be relevant in this response?
The most basic issue is any consideration of resale value has to start with original cost as equipped which you don't know.

As to your analysis, on the www.yachtworld.com that comes up in my browser, there are no U.S. Listed 2000-2001 Beneteau 42s, nada. Still a dumb exercise, even if you had what you thought you had.
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thanks for yet another example...
As stated, my intent was to provide the poster with some qualified information and suggest he ignore potentially biased and uninformed opinions of strangers and do some more thorough research. What's your's?
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thanks for yet another example...
As stated, my intent was to provide the poster with some qualified information and suggest he ignore potentially biased and uninformed opinions of strangers and do some more thorough research. What's your's?
My intent was to demonstrate that your post IS a baised and uninformed opinion, and now you seem interested in changing the subject.
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My post was intended as constructive and consists of qualified limited empirical data you apparently don't like and which somehow you confuse with opinion and bias and categorize as a "dumb exercise". Curious comments and personal attacks coming from someone with that screen name.
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Would anyone like to hear any more about my catalina? Quick question, can you cruise with dogs? Weather sure is nice here today, nearly 70 degrees and climing...

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Weather sure is nice here today, nearly 70 degrees and climing...
Do you have any empirical data to support that CD?

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