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It's the result of your own breed Giu. I have a dear racing friend (my last race was in his crew). He tries to reduce his boat's weight by one kg per year (and it not a youngster). Well, naturally, there's less boat to sell.
Also racer's really like new technology, so an old racing boat is, old (=non-competitive). So the prices of racing boats tend to fall faster, but some get put out to cruise, if they are not too racy.
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Idiens--- what have you done... the horror...have you seen Giu's photoshop skillz...it's a weapon of masked destruction...
I know, and I've made it worse....
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I think we should all be like G and build our own boats
I and the local boat builders just dream of the day. Maybe I could afford to do it in China....
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I think we should all be like G and build our own boats, can you imagine who much money the builders would make?

We get eveything exactly how we want it. Don't like the galley, no problem change it. You want how many cabins?, no problem. Carbon Fibre spar, no problem, Cha ching, Cha ching
Actually believe me, it was a well tought option, for that reason, and the choice of building yard also...and let me tell you that one of the worst enemies was inflation...between the time when we started getting quotes and we actually bought the material, the prices went up, because of the price change due to the cost of Oil and the war...almost 10% of my "sliding" budget was that...

then, based on what I wanted for a boat, I looked at everything that was made in Europe, and even Argentina (where the B&C's are made) and "landed" in a small obscure yard, in my own Country with a proven hull design...the rest were details we made as it went along...they also bid lower...a good thing, and had Carbon fiber oven!!

I was almost buying a Bavaria 38 match race (one of the very first, the ones with the falling keels, no one wants to hear about), staright from the factory, with a sponsorship deal...but (fortunately) that never happened...ufff

But would I do it again??? you bet...lucky we could do it. Thank God.
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In that context, I guess I was lucky with my choice...I got everything I wanted, how I wanted, got all the answers, got all the support I needed from the various suppliers, got all the tests I wanted, would I change anything......Yes...the stern, would have installed an open one, (but liked the design of the one I made then), bad choice with mast..but the carbon fiber one was $$$$$$$$$, and would have designed the engine location further forward.
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Giu,

I gotta ask the question.

You have the most hi tech boat on the board, more wheels, mast, curves,sprits, keel, bulbs, teak surfaces, and everything else, than any two other boats combined, as far as I can see - from my perspective a complete wet dream of unmitigated performance lust - a boat that everytime I gotta look at any of pictures you keep posting (please don't stop!!), I pine just for a chance to get to ride on the rail, let alone to handle a wheel upwind in a breeze...I gotta ask because I haven't the foggiest idea...what does such a machine cost? Just the number of digits would sate my curiosity.

PS - more pics please...
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Just a quick reply to TJK,

YOu were not out of context at ALLL!!!!! I cannot imagine you ever saying anything out of line... unless you hang around SD or Giu for too long (smile)!!

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TJK - I edited the original post. Sorry. Moving too fast!!
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I kinda took Idiens' route out of frustration!
Anyway...to stay on topic...an additional benefit of a new boat is that you get to finance (and deduct interest on) all of the additions you make to your new boat instead of paying out of pocket or at high rates.

I would agree about the warranty coverage being a plus but as discussed on other threads...you can't always count on the new boat guys to stand behind their warranties...particularly the smaller ones. Always get a survey before handing over the final payment!

I don't know too many people who wouldn't by their dreamboat new rather than used if they could handle it financially and not impact their cruising plans...but of course that is not most of us! Fortunately...while boats depreciate much like cars...most don't rust!
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We went the other route, found something slightly used and only 4 years old. You have to be patient and dillagent in your searches and eventually (Hopefully) the right boat will come along.
..... Ready to Sail Boat with none of the new boat surprises.
Sailortjk1,
Back to earth...that is a nice looking boat, as a former Beneteau owner (circa late '80s) I relalize I'm out ot touch with the new models. Is she painted, and if so, by the factory? I assume you have one of the trademark steel keels - how has the cosmetics of that held up, have you or PO had to redo however the factory delivered it (I did with my First...)
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[QUOTE=sailingfool] Just the number of digits would sate my curiosity.

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The price was "#$%&/()=?» and a thank you for letting me spend it, Honey!!!
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Yeah, but I'm pretty sure that you've paid for the boat with respect to the missus a few times over by now....not that you're anywhere near done doing that I might add..
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