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I think the real issue is that he doesn't want to buy the boat in Europe because he doesn't want to have to sail the boat to the USA. He wants to buy the boat where he is going to be sailing the boat.
Some how, I missed that in his earlier post:

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The only problem is...I have too pay the damn swedish bloddy VAT (25%).

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Sailingdog: You got it

I may have been a litle indistinct

I still think the VAT is very high here, but the thing is I want to skip sailing in Europe.

But it seems to be a chance according to the link about BVI register it.
Is it an easy process? I have read the link, but in practice?
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do you have to pay the VAT if you never bring the boat to the EU... I don't think you do...but don't know the laws in the EU well enough to say for sure.

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No Im not sure.

But what make it registrated in Sweden? When the VAT is paid, cause we don´t have any boat register here (pleasure boat register).

How does the procedure look like when clearing in and out in diffrent countries? Which papers do I show them about the boat??
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OK

Now I got it.

France, Germany and Italy..you can buy a boat there, in a Export agreement (but has to be new), and have 3 months to export the boat out of European Union.
You then ferry or sail the boat to where you want and register it there.

Do this..buy in any of the above countries, and register it in Gibraltar. Then go where the wind takes you, namely the BVI...British...

A friend has a boat in Portugal, registerd in Gibraltar.

Done...end of discussion
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Maybe forgot to mention. Im looking for a used boat
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Sweden does have a yacht registry being part of the EEC. Normally you would not have to pay VAT until the boat was taken to the EEC. You can however register in the BVI or I think Jersey as an individual without paying VAT, provided you appoint a local representative at a small charge. You can then take the boat to the EEC for up to 18 mths before tax is payable (with a permit).
It may be possible to buy a VAT paid boat in say the Caribbean from someone who has given up there. Otherwise when you sell you are limited to non EEC countries to avoid tax and probably may face duty selling in the US but probably not it seems if you sell in say Mexico whether or not to a US citizen.
I gather your Swedish VAT is 25% which makes it understandable you wish to avoid it.

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Ouch.. 25% VAT...

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Yes yes 21% in Portugal!!!!

Why do you think I stack up in the US???
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Regarding VAT in EEC :
VAT is due while importing a boat from outside the EEC upon first european harbour you enter at the country rate !!
Azores is the most interesting at 8% if I remember well !!
Much better than 25% Sweden or UK 17%
Check also for EU C88A Exemption certificate upon entry
Do not know how it works in Sweden but I am going this route with my UK registred boat which is still under repairs in the USA
Hope that help !

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