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thank you all for your comments...I will be going this week to look at the elan boats at the dealer and hopefully will be able to get a better idea of how they compare to beneteau and whether they are good boats.
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Look at the Dehler....the Dehler...don't forget...Dehler

Did I metion Dehler??? ahh don't forget to look at the dehler....

Yes....Dehler..very good....BEST EUROPEAN AFFORDABLE BOAT

(Nautor, HR, Swedish and Najad excluded)
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The charter fleets use Bene's, and most come out of charter after 5 to 7 years. (I think Moorings keeps them for 5 and then bumps them to Footloose for 2 more, then they are on the market) Figure a lot of the ones out there are the ones that people did the purchace/charter deal on. After 5 years they have a boat that is no longer in charter and they have to eat the maintenance and slip costs or sell it.
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You said affordable... That kind of leaves out Nautor, HR, Swedish and Najad... doesn't it..

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You said affordable... That kind of leaves out Nautor, HR, Swedish and Najad... doesn't it..
Can you guarantee that Gates, Trump, Ibramovich, don't read this???
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Gates and Trump don't sail as far as I know... and I might give up sailing if they start...

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If gates has a boat, it is NOT moored in fron of his $160Mil home on lk Washington! Nor is Paul allens boat moored on LkWa either. Then again, PA's (mega)yacht would probably NOT fit thru the locks out of puget sound either!

I have not personally heard of mr gates owning a yacht, boat or otherwise, but then again..............One can sail a small dingy without problems in their olymipic sized pool!! no we are not talking the lake they live on either!

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I sailed on a number of trips on an Elan 36 a few years ago (1997 to 2000 or thereabouts) including a 7 day cruise across the English Channel from Southampton and along the Brittany coast to Brest.

That Elan was clearly a production boat but probably better finished/thought out than a Beneteau. The 36 was a relatively 'sporty' boat, with a deep keel and high aspect ration rig etc. and certainly better to sail than a Bavaria - perhaps a bit less suitable to sitting in the marina though. She pointed well and had a good turn of speed, particularly in light airs. I think Elans (or many of them) are designed by Ron Holland who has a very good reputation for fast boats including IIRC a number of Swans.

I've heard Elans compared to maybe Jenneau or a Beneteau First series boats, although as Elean now seem to do two ranges perhaps one is more cruiser and the other cruiser/racer.

Elans also seem to get generally good reviews in the UK yachting press (but most boats do, so I'm a little suspiscious of the conflict between reviewers and advertising revenue).
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Giuletta, does Dehler make boats with furling mainsails?
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Giuletta, does Dehler make boats with furling mainsails?
Sailingguy...

I would assume they can supply one with a furling main....if you specify that...its sacrilege, and murder, but possible I assume...would I do it??? Noooooooooo.
what's wrong with a Lazy Jack???? Just drop the sail you're done, and sails so much nicer...
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