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Is new important to you?

While I'd never discourage anyone who can afford one to buy a new boat, it sounds as though the "newly married couple without kids" is contemplating the addition of future rugrats by your phrase "something a small family could also use as a weekender."

Having owned nine sailboats over the years, with only one of them a new boat, I'd suggest you at least consider buying used.

The one new boat was my first one: an 11-foot Snark. $200 in 1980.
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For what it's worth I spent some time in my youth on a hunter in lake michigan, it worked fine. I also sailed hobie cats there, and they were much much more fun. Probably not so good for babies and small children though unless you use a lot of velcro and lashings.

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Maddata - We reviewed the Catalina 309 for "Latitudes & Attitudes TV". The video is posted on YouTube if you are interested in watching it:

YouTube - Catalina 309 Test Sail

Keeping in mind Bob and I like older cruising boats (yes, even Taiwan boats), we do know what the 309 was built for and we think Frank Butler and Gerry Douglas have succeeded in meeting those design parameters. I was on the test sail, and having sailed previously on Catalina 30s, 36s, and a 350, the 309 performed quite nicely in the semi-blustery conditions on Puget Sound that day. I sailed a Catalina 30 for a week on Lake Michigan and Grand Traverse Bay (including running from a summer storm), and always felt the boat was sound. So I think a new 309 would be fine for your intended use.
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You aren't writing this from your Formosa, are you????? (smile).

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I wish, CD! Actually writing from my home office/editing studio here on San Juan Island about five miles out of Friday Harbor. Got a view across the Strait of Juan de Fuca with the Olympic Mts. gleaming in the distance. At night, I can see the lights of Port Angeles 26 miles away...

But I'd rather be writing this aboard a nice Formosa 51 (or Hudson Force 50). And since we just sold the house last week, well, I've got some decisions to make...
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GO FOR IT Moonfish! Got any children? We are a month or two behind you!

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You might want to consider some of the most popular boats on Lake Michigan - Catalina, Ericson, Tartan, Hunter, for instance. A lot of these boats are/were sold locally and are serviced by marinas who know them inside and out. You would never have a problem finding somebody with experience to service any system on any of these boats. Also, these (and a few others) have large communities of devotees so there's a good chance you'll be able to talk (and sail) with somebody who has direct experience sailing the same boat you have.
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CD- Are you getting a Formosa too? Finally, a real boat....

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Moonfish --

That's a really cool review -- thanks for that. Underway, it looks pretty simple which, as a first keelboat purchase, gives some comfort.

My only concern now is that the boat will go on a 30' mooring can and I am not sure if the harbor will take issue with the 31' LOH. I actually thought the LOH was 30' when I put the order in. Perhaps a slight overhang is ok on cans as it is in slips.
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If one foot makes a difference in the boat's swing circle that allows it to hit another boat... they've got the moorings setup wrong.
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