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Hi guys, this is my 1st post and I would like to congratulate everyone here for the amazing community and huge database of information. I have been reading lots of the posts lately and decided it was time to post my own.

Here is the deal: I have recently sold everything I owned and am now looking to buy a boat to live aboard for the next couple of years and hopefully set sails and do some blue water cruising. I'm looking for a boat that will be enough size for myself and a dog 26-32 ft range should be more than enough boat.

I would like to hear anyones opinions on what would be the most suitable boats to look at? I have been looking at the nonsuch 26, 30, island packet 27, cape dory 28, S-2 9.2, ericson 29. I am trying to keep my budget to around 25k USD not sure what I can get for that money that will be sound for blue water cruising.

I am also starting to think that my location might be a problem. I would consider buying something a little further and sail back to Toronto Canada.

Anyhow, sorry for the long post. Hope you guys can shed some light my way.

Cheers and safe sailing

Gabe
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Of the boats you have listed, the CD28, is probably the best for bluewater IMHO. You should also look at the Alberg 30, the Southern Cross 28/31, the Albin 28, the Pearson Triton, the Pearson Commander, the Sea Sprite 28, Camper & Nicholson 30, Etap 30, Irwin 30.

Personally, I like the Alberg 30, although, they're getting a bit long in tooth, and the Southern Cross, even though it has a cored hull. Donna Lange is about to complete a single-handed circumnavigation in here SC28, and Pat Henry did one in an SC31.
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I know of a Southern Cross 28 for sale at the Charlotte Sailing Center in Charlotte VT on Lake Champlain. You could get to Toronto but i think you would have to step the mast to pass the locks. You could probably get a deal because it wasn't even in the water last summer. I'm not sure of the condition but if it needs work you could probably talk him down. I bought my SC31 for 10k and am putting about 10-15k into it (same budget as you). In the end i will know every nook and cranny and know about anything i didn't fix. These boats are ideal bluewater cruisers and very nice to look at too. If headroom is a consideration, the 31's is 6'3..plenty for me. There is a 31 on yachtworld for 29k...its been for sale since at least last summer and is located in NY.
SD...on your advice (cored hull issues) i had another surveyor check out my boat...no issues were found . There was one done for a previous potential buyer and my original survey by a well know guy so i think i'm in the clear (as far as that goes). Just my luck we get this storm though...i have all the deck hardware off and i cut a 3 by 4 ft section of the cabintop off to recore it...under shrinkwrap! I was down there yesterday with winds gusting to 60mph and the tidal river moving closer to my boat (on the hard). I was armed with gorilla tape, patching every little hole i could find in the shrinkwrap. It was billowing around wildly and the wind in the rigging of other boats was whistling louder than i've ever heard! I'm headed back tomorrow to make sure everything is okay. Meanwhile my (uncovered) P26 in Vermont is covered with 18 inches of wet heavy snow!!!! I think i will have driven about 1,000 miles by the weeks end. Nobody told me boat ownership was like having kids....all you do is worry,worry,worry!
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SC31,

Glad to help. BTW, I understand that the central section of the hull, about 2' from centerline on both sides of the Southern Cross is solid laminate, and the cored sections start outboard of that. This means installing through hulls in that 4' wide central stripe is relatively safe, provided you're not an idiot.

I think the one in NY sold about a week ago or so. There is an SC31 up in Marblehead, MA that is for sale though.
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The Nonsuch is a great boat, but if you find one that is within your budget, it is going to be in pretty rough shape. They are not a great rig for real offshore cruising though - chafe problems. I also think you should look at the Alberg 30. There are a couple for sale in your price range:

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Also check out the Aloha 28 - great boats - big inside and pretty fast for their size.
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Guys, great input so far. I will look very closely from now on at the cd30, the sc31, the alberg 30. I came across a Westerly Berwick 31 here in Toronto and price at 24k what you guys think of this boat? I'm googling it now to see if I can find more info in the boat. I am not in a rush to buy either, I prefer to wait until the end of the summer and see if I can something for a cheaper price. I would buy now if the price is right.

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The end of the season is generally a good time to buy, since many owners will want to sell the boat before having to pay for winter storage of same.

The Westerly brand is a good one historically. They are known for their twin-keelers more than anything else IIRC. While I'm not familiar with that particular boat, they do have a pretty good reputation overall.
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You're in a great area for buying a CS model, its basically a local boat. Between the 27, 30, maybe 33 you should be able to find something for your budget. See CS Yacht write-ups (Disclosure - I've owned a CS for the past seven years)

You will pay a bit of a premium, because you are buying a better boat IMHO than other alternatives. CSes are somewhat special in that they combine modern performance-oriented designs with sturdy construction generally suitable for serious and/or offshore use (more for some models than others...).

There's plenty where you live, check'em out.

As to living on 27-30 foot boat, I don't know, could you adjust to living in a four person tent? To live aboard, i'd suggest you be sure to find a boat with running hot water and a good inverter/shore power system so you can have minimal creature comforts. You may need to get into the 33 area and spend a little more money...welcome to boating.
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Sailingfool thanks for the input. I would consider the CS but I think they're outside my budget I have never seen a CS going for less than 35k at least not around here. As for living aboard on a smaller than usual boat I think i'll be ok. Single and young should be able to keep up for a while. We'll see maybe after the season the CS prices will drop a little and I might be able to consider than as well.

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