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I wonder if a hydrovane would correct that problem.
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I wonder if a hydrovane would correct that problem.
Doubtful, since it seems like it is a basic boat design issue.

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Ask this guy...he just sold his and is therefore free of reasons to BS you:
FreeBoatAd.com - Maple Leaf 42

Stan Huntingford drew the Passport 42, I believe, which is one of the better cruising designs of the last 40 years, so I have to wonder if it's really that bad.

Hey, here's a bigger Huntingford for less: Explorer Ketch 1979 Boat For Sale

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I may be able to put you intouch with a couple who have owned one for years, and done several trans Pacific trips on her - and own her still. PM me is that interests you and I'll contact them and see if they are interested in advising you.
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Just got a call from our broker and our offer was accepted!!! Kinda scary. Anyone Know how to modify a to small rudder?
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I would replace it with a larger one... if the boat is a skeg-hung or keel-hung rudder, it'll be a fair bit of work. A free-standing spade rudder could be harder or easier depending on the installation.

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I would find out if Stan Huntingford is still alive and ask his opinion on a "retrofit".

Or I would e-mail Ted Brewer, who is quite alive and seems happy enough to give opinions on designs even if he didn't draw them.
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Yea, tried to contact him but unfortunately he has passed away.
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Installing a larger ellicptical rudder as a retrofit has worked well on many boats including the Express 37's to address control issues downwind. You can contact Robert Perry on Sailing Anarchy and discuss this with him. I recently chatted with him about doing a bulb keel for my Venture 21. Since the boat is in Portland, it wouldn't be far to get it to him in Seattle. He won't do anything until you guys agree on a budget though except express his interest or lack thereof.
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Modifying the rudder is something that needs to be done (at least planned and designed) by a pro. Serious balance issues (either over or under balanced) can lead to real problems managing the helm afterwards.

The Maple Leafs have a fair sized skeg, with the rudder extending beyond it with a balancing area ahead of the stock. Likely the K/C version of the rudder is on the shallow side.

To add area to the aft end could create a real bear to deal with and plenty of loading on the steering system. Going deeper will negate the draft advantage of the K/C arrangement (and the rudder would be particularly vulnerable)

This might be a tough problem to address, if indeed it's a real problem on these boats...
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