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John:
I'm not exactly sure precisely what you are referring to in your comment above. When I responded to the question back in 2002, I was answering a specific question about the Pearson 30, which I assumed was the 1970's era Pearson 30 and not the earlier 30 foot Wanderer/Coaster or later Flyer or 303. Alden, Hood, Herreshoff and then back to the Hood/Dieter Empacher team.
I think that this improvement probably began during the period that he employed Halsey Herreshoff, ....
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Sorry Jeff, I didn't realize that your thread was 2002 - that's when I first joined SailNet and my memory isn't that good. I agree that the second-generation boats are better designs - Herreshoff designed my boat and we love it and as you know, we've taken it to the gates of hell and come back from it, somewhat worse for the wear.
With that said, my comment was that the first-generation Bristol 30 is as tough as the 70's era Pearson 30.
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I sailed a 1980 Morgan 32 on Lake Erie for about 8 years (boat was purchased in 1998. This boat served me well in some very bad weather. Previous owner had sailed it on Long Island Sound and all of the Great Lakes and according to ships log experienced extreme weather. I would recommend this boat to anyone. The only downside is that she was not very fast and had to be reefed early.
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SD,

Didn't notice the date of the original post when I replied. Thanks for pointing that out to me.

Regardless, I hope that my response provided to some useful information to other readers who may also be dealing with the original questions about boat age and comfort levels.
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Alan...I agree with you about any boat for the Bahamas....but a LOT of standard production boats would be quite dangerous once you get past the Turks and Caicos and protected waters and need to bash into the full trade winds and seas for 700 miles or so. The passage to Luperon can be hairy but it is after Luperon that you must head into the trades along the north DR coast and through the Mona passge. I am not saying it hasn't been done, but I would not do it in anything in the 30' range that was not purpose built for sea duty. (i.e. a Southern Cross but not an O'day).
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Great old post guys...glad someone revived it! I've enjoyed reading through it. I'm in the Pacific Northwest and getting ready for too soon rain that seems never to end so I'm dreaming of some of those pink sand beaches and fruity drinks...plus the next great boat to buy!
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I have a Bristol 35 from 1967 and I don't think it would be considered a heavily built boat, it weighs in at around 12,000 lbs which is quite comparable to today's boats. However, with its full keel I do feel at home on the open water with this boat and she has sailed more than once to Bermuda and back to Boston in good weather and bad. Jim
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Strangely enough, At the moment it seems to me to be these revived old posts that actually hold real interesting information and discussion.
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