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post #11 of 21 Old 05-09-2007
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There are a few boats that match your criteria, they don't make them anymore but you might be able to find one somewhere. Most of them are on the East Coast - not sure where you are... There is the Dragon - most of them were wooden but there are a few fibreglass ones around. N Class sloops, mostly wooden again... A lot of the Herreshof designs fit your bill as well. Also, check out Cannel,Payne and Page Brokerage..
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I'm not sure if a catboat meets all requirements, but would certainly be on my list. I'm not at all convinced that the 30' plus, large cockpit, small cabin boats are going to age well in public opinion. A lot of boat, a lot of money, for a limited sailing style. While beautiful to the eye they scream "lots of disposable income". Attempts to resell should only be done in a vibrant economy. For authentication purposes I offer that no regular member of this forum owns a boat of that length with that cockpit/cabin proportion, ie...limited appeal.

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The AE 28 is within my budget from a $$ standpoint (~$100k), but it's still a lot of cash considering it doesn't meet all of my requirements. I currently have a Quickstep 24 and the AE 28 isn't all that much more boat.
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If you want "more boat" then I'd suggest you stay a little closer to the mainstream, as Sailaway suggested. There is a reason that AE's and the like are not flying off the shelves. They are beautiful, but there isn't a whole lot you can do with them, and sooner or later you are going to want a different boat. Very small market, and you'll need to maintain it to perfection in order for it to hold any value. There is a boat called the Viking 28, with fairly traditional lines, quite fast, large cockpit, and several of them have inboards. Buy one of those and spend some money on a refit.

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Sounds like you're looking for a CCA-type cruiser/"racer". Any number of boats out there - Tartan 34C, Bristol 34, Allied Luders 33, Whitby Alberg 30...
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I just have a mental block about the AE and a walmart cooler as a combination step/icebox.

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I just have a mental block about the AE and a walmart cooler as a combination step/icebox.
I had a catboat a while back that used a cooler for a step. They had glued a piece of teak and holly to it to distribute the weight and make it look purposeful. In that application, I thought it was clever since space was at a bit of a premium. That was a $15k boat. I would expect more on a $250k boat.
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You didn't list a budget, but, a boat that meets all you specs would be a J105. Depending on your preferences, you could pick up a used shoal draft model for a "reasonable price". Jumbo cockpit, easy controls, easy to single hand. Built very strong, even the pre-scrimp models. Certainly isn't as pretty as the Alerion, but, with a flag blue paint job with a sand & white deck, she'd do just fine!
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Different Direction

If a large cockpit and wheel sterring is a primary driver along with shorter money, An older Pearson 34 maybe an option. I think the cockpit is almost 9' with the wheel in the aft. Somewhat beamy (11+ ft), but has decent sailing performance for a cruiser.

My wife and I looked at a 1984 model and liked it, but it didn't have ST winches for Singlehanding and needed some good elbow grease to polish it up. We bought a Pearson 10M instead in better condition for less money, with all the stuff that I wanted, and absolutley love the boat. The cockpit on the 10M is 7' 6", but feels a little smaller because the wheel is forward near the bridge deck/companion way. Yesterday we had four adults and two teenagers in the "pit" and it was a little tight, but not uncomfortable.

I lust after a Alerion 38 right now for my "retirement" boat. God that sure is purdy.

Regarding the A28. It looks like a pretty good performing boat. Yesterday one easily kept up with us on a beam reach in about 15 knot winds no matter what I did to outrun him. We should have really been able to pull away from him. I am confident though it was highly due to the guy in the AE being a very competent sailor and the dork (me) sailing our boat isn't.

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Etchells with a wheel? Skip the tiller and you eliminate a lot of good daysailers. Look here for a pretty etchells "daysailer".
http://blueribbonnets.com/
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