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CATALINA 350 need input

That was $25000 $2500
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CATALINA 350 need input

Larry Levine,
As I said before go to Yachtworld.com and check the used 34 and 36 Catalina''s.
And remember actual sale prices will be at least %10 lower than what you see.
If you are willing to buy a Catalina at least dont make the mistake of paying more than you have to..
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CATALINA 350 need input

My wife and I have been looking to purchase a new boat for quite a while and we finally put a deposit down on a 350 on Mother''s Day (I tried to convince her it was my gift to her but I don''t think she believes me!) <G>

I''ve read some of this message thread and I must confess that being an engineer at heart I analyzed and analyzed which boat would be best for us and in the end... despite my best intentions, we fell in love with the 350. Buying a new boat without any significant data to support it is not what I had planned on doing but when we saw the 350 it truly drew us in.

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CATALINA 350 need input

has anyone received delivery of this boat yet?
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CATALINA 350 need input

Well, we just traveled 16 hours to see hull #14 of a 350. Some thoughts:
We were hoping this would be the answer to our boat buying confusion, it wasn''t for us. As a 6''2" male I did love the headroom, everybit of the 6''9" they advertise. With that said there were a lot downsides for a person my size on this boat.
A. the forward bed was only 79" long and with my height I need to put the pillows at the end of the mattress to fit. The width dimension there was only 29" and flaired out to 41" 15" down (pillow depth). With this said NO WAY TWO HEADS FIT THERE! Not very useable for us. If you are shorter might work, but I would think you would have to be way less than 6'' to be comfortable.

B. Head was TINY and Shower compartment was even smaller. Over 6 feet and standing up to wash would be a challenge. You could sit and make it work.

C. Main Salon For a large boat 35''5" and 13'' beam the salon was meager. The head protrudes into a good part of the salon and the angled settee does not offer great seating capacity. Although we love the litte table for two concept, the forward seat is parallel two the head door and sort of feels out of the salon. Combine this with the smaller table on the starboard side as compared to the 36 Cat and it just seemed real small.

D. Nav Area: Adequate, a little disappointed that the radio, VHF backs were exposed to the inside of the tv area. It makes for easy access but also makes it susceptible to problems.

E. Galley: OK, the front loading frig is a real get on your knees to look for something. Not sold on this feature, it obviously has some advantages over top load but we think the downside might offset them. Good storage for food and supplies. Separate freezer a real plus, don''t understand why this isn''t incorporated into the entire line. Catalina should take a page from the hunter 356 and just separate the frig /freezer compartment and add a fan to blow cool into the frig. What a nice touch!!!

F. Aft Cabin 54" x 80" OK maybe the best place to sleep on this boat for us. But with this said, the exciting thing about this boat was the centerline berth forward. To sleep aft sort of defeats the purpose of buying this boat. There are TONS of boats with Athwartship perths. The Hunter 356 is a real queen size bed 60x80. Not mention the rest of the Catalina line.

G. Other: I didn''t like the door to the aft cabin, it is cut out at the bottom centerline area so it can clear the settee near the nav station. Very narrow to walk through.

H. Hull & Deck: The non skid was different from other catalina''s we saw, almost painted on. Not the molded in pattern that we are accustomed to seeing on a catalina.

Lot''s of FREEBOARD makes the boat look big, they obviously get that headroom from somewhere.

Storage in the cockpit was excellant. Deep lockers and lots of them. I really liked the shelves built into the starboard lazzorette. Catalina should incorporate this into the rest of the line especially the 380 aft locker.

Auto Pilot: Boat is listed at 13K for displacement (some Manufactureres ? this) but even if it is low by a ton well within the limits of a 4000 Autohelm (17.5k)or Wheelpilot 30 (19k). These should work well for most applications, coastal or inland. If going offshore a 6000 would be my call. With this all said the Diamond Series Pedastal WILL NOT ACCOMODATE either of these wheel pilots. This adds a lot to the cost of an autopilot if you so desire to have one installed. I spent hours trying to figure out a way to make it work, talked to edson B4 I saw the boat, on the phone with Simrad while standing on the boat and not confident either will or could work without a major modification. This was a REAL DOWNSIDE TO US since it added $3500 to the option.

Access to Hdwe: The liner did not allow as good access to fittings as say the 36. Most are buryied or difficult to reach with tools.

Conclusion: As you probably gathered the 350 wouldn''t work well for us, I am sure it will be great for others, but the downsides for such a LARGE 35'' boat were too great. There was a silver lining possibly out of our trip and that is that we also go to spend a lot of time in a 2003 36 and although it wasn''t perfect it may do what we are looking for at a much lower price tag than the 350. I looks like we may pursue that option this week.

Keep in mind this was one couples opinion, what we have learned from this entire buying expierence is that NO BOAT IS PERFECT. If we could only take the best features of a Catalina, Hunter, Beneteau and Jeanneau we might have a real GREAT PRODUCTION BOAT. Maybe one day someone will make that boat, but we need a boat NOW!!!!!
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CATALINA 350 need input

A couple thoughts here:
Alternatives:
You might look at the Hanse 371 or 341. Both look like neat boats on paper although I have yet to see one in the flesh. A couple other neat boats in this size range is the Beneteau First 36.7 and Dehler 36.

Front loading ice boxes:
There are very good reasons that boats traditionally have top loading ice boxes. First of all when you open a front loader when heeled under way you either need large fiddles on the shelves or food will spill out. Either are real negatives. The other issue is loss of cold air. Compared to 110 volt shore units, boat refrigeration is comparatively low powered and needs all of the efficiency that it can get. When you open a front loader, large quantities of cold air pour out and so you need to rechill the compartment with almost each opening of the door. This greatly increases battery draw down over a top loader or shortens ice life.

Vee berth:
I also agree with you about the forward cabin being the ideal main cabin on the hook. many sub 38 footers seem to be treating the aft cabin as the main cabinb, but aft cabins on an aft cockpit boat rarely have the ventilation potential of a forward cabin.

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Jeff: We saw the Hanse last fall in Annapolis and it looked nice for the $$$ my concerns were two fold. Little US suport since new to this market and it was pretty stark by US stds.

The Dehler 37c which is out of Production might work for us, but again very few in the US and little support.

This again brings me back to the big three. They all have some ups and downs, the 356 has a decent interior but I can''t get my arms around the B&R Rig. The Beneteau is way two European for mine and my wifes tastes and the overall storage is better now than in years past, but WAY behind Hunter and Catalina. Look into any cabinet and there is not bottom just Hull, valves and hose. Where is the flat area to put something.
As for Catalina I still like the way they look at the dock, but Mr Butler is VERY SLOW to embrace changes to upgrade features as the market changes. The best example is the Frig in tne C36. Very large easily divided and made into a separate freezer and Refrig. Just go steel the way Hunter did it on the 1999-2000 H380. No change to the layout of the galley. In fact if we actually buy one I will make the mod myself.
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The Catalina 350 is working very well for two famililies with 4 kids. The kids are having a blast below or hanging out in the large cockpit.
The forward cabin is where the kids sleep, the aft cabin and main salon is where the adults sleep. Lot''s of room for all.

Storage capacity is also great, Gear and harware are of very good quality and value. Lot''s of improvments since the C-36.

The boat is all around just a real comfortable crusing sailboat.

I highly recommend it!

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I just found the review on the 350''s I had seen the 350 at the Boat Show in Miami Beach. Although, there were a few negative features to the boat, the positive aspects outweigh the negative by a great deal. I just recently sold my Catlina36 for almost the same price that I had purhased it 3 years ago. I am now waiting anxiuosly for my 350 which I purchased.
P.S. The 36 is an excellent boat too!! It sails beautifully. I wanted to get a bigger boat but when I saw the 350 I decided to go with it. Good luck with whatever choice you make-You''ll be happy with either one.

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Check out the new C&C 99. At 32 feet it is smaller than the 35 but is very well constructed and really big for a 32 footer. Plus the boat should really kick but. We currently have a C28. From everything I have heard the 350 seems much like the 31 and didn''t like the layout of that boat at all.
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