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I get a kick out of the word "good" in "good power sailers". Actually, it's a hard thing to build because the design specs are almost totally at odds with each other. There are exceptions - As noted before, the Corsair Trimarans are very fast under sail and reasonably good on power. Perhaps the best is the Telstar 28, also a Trimaran, and built by Performance Cruising in Annapolis (also makes the popular Gemini catamarans). With the Honda 50 (same motor as the MacGregor) it will do close to 20 knots under power or sail. Getting a monohull to do both is a lot harder.

There are several much larger cruising boats that manage both reasonably well, but they are normally out of this price range.
I would have mentioned the Telstar, but it sounds like it is both a bit out of his price range and also a bit bigger than he'd like to go. Have you ever seen one in person... it dwarfs a Cape Dory 25, even without the amas spread out... and it's pretty big compared to even a MacGregor 26.

A true monohull sailboat, won't generally motor well, since the things that give a monohull its stability detract from its ability to motor... A monohull that motors well, will generally have poor sailing performance, as seen by the MacGregor 26, which has a very small mast and relatively small rig for a boat its size.

Multihulls can get away with doing both well, at a cost... They tend to be a bit more expensive, and their beam can make docking them, unless they fold in some way, much more expensive.
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PHRF rating of the Mac 26M looks to be around 240-250, which puts it in the same race as boats like the Albin Vega 27, San Juan 26, Ericson commander, Bahama 25, Baha 30, Dolph23, Cal 24, Clipper Marine 30, Contessa 26, cheoy lee 27, columbia 26-1, Dana 24, IN Folkboat, Islander 24,26b,29-1, Morgan 25 and other such 'poor sailers'.

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Most of the boats that you're comparing the MacGregor to are older, full-keel, bluewater designs... the Albin Vega, Folkboat, Contessa 26, etc are often common choices for a smaller bluewater cruising boat... not quite the same category as a MacGregor 26.
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I like the way my boat looks... GRRRR
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"PHRF rating of the Mac 26M looks to be around 240-250"

Is that with the 50 hp motor on?
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I like the way my boat looks... GRRRR
I, uhhhh, like the way it looks too!!!
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I have a family and I want to sail with my family, every now and then. My teenager sons want some power and do not care about perfectness of sailing. My wife wants roomy downstairs, a shower and head, acceptable for ladies, cares neither about power nor sailing perfectness. I do windsurfing for few years with jumps and trick and anything that has a sail looks inferior to me unless it's a better windsurf board (that would be a 90lb sinker). If we want (and we do) to be together we have to compromise. Yes, I know that Mac26 is a bad sailor, but besides Mac 26 that is roomy and can have 50hp OB is there any other options to have compromise between us? That was my question...
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World Speed Sailing Record is 48.70 knots (or 56.05 mph). Yep, windsurfer.
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To answer your question - No - the MacGregor is in a class of its own (in North America at least)...

But you should be aware that the reason that there are so many negative comments about the MacGregor is not the fact that it can carry a 50hp engine, it is the fact that they are not very well built. If you do get one, try to avoid placing it under any stress, or else upgrade all of the hardware..
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I have a family and I want to sail with my family, every now and then. My teenager sons want some power and do not care about perfectness of sailing. My wife wants roomy downstairs, a shower and head, acceptable for ladies, cares neither about power nor sailing perfectness. I do windsurfing for few years with jumps and trick and anything that has a sail looks inferior to me unless it's a better windsurf board (that would be a 90lb sinker). If we want (and we do) to be together we have to compromise. Yes, I know that Mac26 is a bad sailor, but besides Mac 26 that is roomy and can have 50hp OB is there any other options to have compromise between us? That was my question...
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World Speed Sailing Record is 48.70 knots (or 56.05 mph). Yep, windsurfer.
Have you thought about getting a good quality sailboat (one that really sails) and an RIB with a decent sized outboard as a tender. That would keep everyone happy and give your son a chance to get away alittle.j Other wise your going to compromise yourself into a boat that doesn't do anything well.
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