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The Sabre 28 is a completely different kettle of fish. Robustly built and designed for cruising. It would not be my choice in a pocket cruiser but it can and has served as a blue water boat.
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Sorry, meant the Hunters in the mid sized 'pocket' range.
I owned a 1986 HR31 and was somewhat dismayed at it's lack of robustness -when pulling out the mildew impregnated cloth headliner and staring at daylight streaming through the 1/4 inch FG outer bulkhead. Seriously, not bluewater.
Just because someone is taking a HR49 on a circumnav doesn't mean it is BW, I noted a complete lack of hold downs on Hunter's sole hatches this year at the boat show. It would take some serious mod's to be safe.
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A HR49 is a very different beast than a H49... Hallberg Rassy doesn't make a coastal cruiser of any size IMHO. BTW, HR doesn't make a 49, but does make the HR48...

As for small boats... the Tartan and Sabre 28, the Cape Dory 28/30, the Alberg 30, the Southern Cross 28/31, the Elizabethan 31 are all blue water capable boats...far more so than a Hunter 30.
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I've been considering a Shannon 28. Wondering what anyone knows about them. Are they fast, slow, somewhere in between?

Also, I didn't see Bristol Channel Cutters, Westsails or Cape George Cutters listed.
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GB...nothing wrong with a Shannon 28 for blue water. I would classify them as slow and stable much like the others on your list...but a bit pricier!
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I've been considering a Shannon 28. Wondering what anyone knows about them. Are they fast, slow, somewhere in between?

Also, I didn't see Bristol Channel Cutters, Westsails or Cape George Cutters listed.
I think nearly all of those have been mentioned either in this thread or any one of the other similar threads that are running somewhat concurrently. It's hard to keep them all straight:

Dreaming of bluewater...

Alternatives to Bristol Channel Cutter for offshore single-handing?

If you like the Shannon 28, you should compare it closely with the PSC Dana 24. Whenever someone mentions one or the other, I always suggest they compare the two since they are so similar.
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I think nearly all of those have been mentioned either in this thread or any one of the other similar threads that are running somewhat concurrently. It's hard to keep them all straight:

Dreaming of bluewater...

Alternatives to Bristol Channel Cutter for offshore single-handing?

If you like the Shannon 28, you should compare it closely with the PSC Dana 24. Whenever someone mentions one or the other, I always suggest they compare the two since they are so similar.
?? Why the 24 and not the 27? That would seem more similar ..
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Shannon

I've been looking at theses three boats for awhile, the PSC 24, 27 and the Shannon 28. I really like the Shannons the best, but they are more expensive for the oldest boats of the bunch. I like the keel stepped mast and I think 28 is a good size for me.

The 27 is an older boat also but you can find some mid to upper 80 models and some sell for a better price than the Shannon. If you wait and shop around a little the price fluctuates. Whereas the Shannon's have been pretty constant and going up in price, which would make a good resale value. You just wonder how long someone is going to pay $50,000 for a boat aging over 25 years. Also financing and insurance can be tough on an old boat.

The Dana may be the best buy, newer boat at a comparable price to the others. Smaller so cheaper maintanence costs and dockage. Trailerable. You just have to be able to deal with 24 feet. If three deals of each boat popped up and I had to choose, I would be at a loss. When I buy I'll buy whichever is the best deal. There is a cheap Orion on Yachtworld at the moment I'm keeping an eye on. Good Luck
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A HR49 is a very different beast than a H49... Hallberg Rassy doesn't make a coastal cruiser of any size IMHO. BTW, HR doesn't make a 49, but does make the HR48...

As for small boats... the Tartan and Sabre 28, the Cape Dory 28/30, the Alberg 30, the Southern Cross 28/31, the Elizabethan 31 are all blue water capable boats...far more so than a Hunter 30.

Dog, here an link about the HR 49 http://www.hallberg-rassy.se/hr49/hr49.shtml fyi
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Though this thread is long I don't think it's been mentioned: the Gozzard 31 or 36, both well-built and holding it's value. It's closest competitors are Shannon and Cabo Rico.
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