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Drylander....Go buy a boat with the help of someone who knows more about boats than you do. Go sailing.

Sail, sail, sail, and after a few months when the weather is bad, log onto sailnet and get all of your questions answered. Be safe of course, but this idea that you have to have a lifetime of sailing experience to be qualified to enjoy the water is nonsense.

You already know you want to sail. You will love owning a boat. Try not to make a foolhardy purchase, but there are plenty of people that can help guide you to the right vessel. Go for it - don't even wait until '08 to start looking.
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I should add this....Hunter and Catalina are NOT the only options. Just because they are two of the most coomon doesn't mean they are the best choices. Look at different makers...look at lots of boats and you will form your own opinion after some time.
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Your most economical way to do this is thru one of the clubs, you can charter many different boats at a reduced price and get all the instruction you need at a reduced price. I've attached a link to the fleet webpage for Marina Sailing in Channel Islands that has clubs in many other harbors.
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The Catalina 250 is a nice little family weekender/day sailor. It is comfortable. I have owned one in the past and would give it a reccomendation. I personally avoid water ballast and would go for a fixed keel. It does not have an inboard but instead an outboard which is one less thing for you to worry about as far as systems. It is forgiving and will not break the bank. Pretty good resale if you want to get rid of it and trade up, or get rid of it alltogether because you want to buy a Sea Ray and forget this sailing stuff.

As far as build quality between Hunter, Catalina, Beneteau, and Jeauneau... I think I will steer clear of that one (smile). But I will tell you that I have owned 4 sailboats, all of them Catalinas.

If you have specific Catalina questions.. ask, and I will try and help. Or, if you have kiddo-sailing questions, ask, and I will try and help.

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If you have specific Catalina questions.. ask, and I will try and help. Or, if you have kiddo-sailing questions, ask, and I will try and help.

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Thanks everybody for lots of info. I have pretty much made my mind in favor of charter for now. It will take me some time to complete ASA 101 & 103.

As far as the kiddo-sailing question is concerned: at what age do you think it is safe to start taking kids sailing? I understand that sailing experience of parents is a factor as well...
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Once you know a bit about what you are doing, and are confident that you can ensure their safety to a reasonable degree, it's good to start them young - before birth if the wife can still move around the boat safely , but definitely within the first three months of their life. No such thing as starting them too early..
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Very true. My wife and I sailed until she was seven months pregnant and then sailed with my son when he was five days old.
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I should add this....Hunter and Catalina are NOT the only options. Just because they are two of the most coomon doesn't mean they are the best choices. Look at different makers...look at lots of boats and you will form your own opinion after some time.
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Thanks everybody for lots of info. I have pretty much made my mind in favor of charter for now. It will take me some time to complete ASA 101 & 103.

As far as the kiddo-sailing question is concerned: at what age do you think it is safe to start taking kids sailing? I understand that sailing experience of parents is a factor as well...

My wife and I sailed long before kids. She and I sailed almost until she had Chase (our first), at which point we did not leave the docks much. It was less of a factor of her not wanting to - but the pregnancy induced sae sickness when we left the dock.

Chase was on board 5 days after birth. I cannot see how it is ever too early. The biggest issue for a new born is the temperature control. In Texas, where we were at the time of his birth, it is VERY hot in the sumer - so we needed to add a generator (already had air conditioning) to the boat. Not to make a long story out of this, but the cost of a genny on a Catalina 320 would exceed what we could ever get back, so we traded up to a 380 - where a generator might be more expected and a lot easier to install. Keep your temperatures in mind as you shop for boats. The 250 is WAYYYY too small for a generator (diesel, anyways). If you have temperature extrememes (hot or cold) and want to cruise/sail in those times, you better buy a boat that will handle that - or you will find yourself sitting on the boat all alone while the wife sits at the house with the children (cursing your name).

If I can, I will try and include some thoughts on this in my Cruising with Children thread.

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For a second there I read that as "Cursing with Children". I know sailors are a rough lot, but....
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