I've got a 1977 Paceship PY26 and I think it will last another 30+ yrs. the way it's built. I also have a lot of experience working w/ fiberglass and this boat is built like a tank.
Chain plates are as solid as a rock, the floor/decks aren't soft. The weathered Gel Coat took a lot of rubbing but came back nice. The original stainless is in great shape after a good cleaning. Mast and rigging (1 strand on main halyard is frayed) are all good also.
paceship.org would be a good ref. site also
I have the in between boat, built in 1977 when it went from Paceship to AMF Paceship, this is info. from the website owner (Jay Moran) at paceship.org. I believe you have the Canadian built boat.
Thanks for the input on the PY26. From what I have read, that is the most common of boats in the Paceship community. Hardly any complaints from their owners. I was only hoping that the build quality would carry over to the Chance 32-28.
To my eye, not the prettiest girl at the dance, but... she surveyed well, you have negotiated a favourable price to you, she's been around 34 years so I doubt she'll turn to dust anytime soon.
You are pleased with many aspects of this boat - go for it.
To each their own. The simple flush deck design is great in my eyes. I’ve not had extensive sailing experience, but I feel the less cluttered the top deck is, the easier it will be for me to utilize the boat. Does dust float? Lol – Kidding…
"I’m currently looking at purchasing an 1974 AMF Paceship Chance 32/28
Designed by Britton Chance"
"I'm really curious about the longevity of the AMF boats. Not a lot of info about them."
The boat would have been built by Paceship Yachts of Mahone Bay, Nova Scotia and not AMF. Paceship stopped building boats around 1976.
I wasn't aware of this – looks like I didn’t do my homework as well as I had thought. But I see you are correct as this would not be an “AMF” but rather, just referred to as a “Paceship Chance 32-28.” Thanks for the info. I was doing some more research. It seems the Britton Chance designed this bout to be a competitive IOR boat / cruiser. The design intention was to have on 28ft of the 32ft boat in the water. And in order to do the, the keel is closer to the front of the boat (or at least more so than most designs ive looking into - someone correct me if Im way out of line here?) and swept back. This to me would allow the boat to lay over nicely and pick up speed in a good blow while maintaining great stability from a design standpoint.
I almost bought the smaller Chance 29 version. It was very heavily built, and in great shape, for it's age. I wanted a diesel, and wheel steering, so I opted to look around. I do feel that yopu are getting alot of boat for the money. I know a 32/28 owner, who races religiously, and loves the boat. It is heavy, and certainly not fast in light winds - He told me that the Tanzer 22s will pass him in light winds, but as the wind picks up, they head for the docks , and he is out having a ball! I am from the Maritimes, and Paceships hold their value well here, as people know they were built very solid.
For the longest time I wanted wheel steering, and thought I wanted a Diesel engine. However I have come to the conclusion that on a 32 ft boat, I honestly don’t need the wheel steering. Plus it takes up so much room on a boat. And for my price range (Read: under $15K) I have determined that any diesel I find will need extensive work to make it right – or at least it seems this way with what I have been looking at over the past 2 years. I agree, the boat is sluggish in light winds. I found this out on the sea trial. Hey the boat will be relocated to Chicago and that’s where wind will always blow right?
As to longetivity, I concur with FASTER's comments, this is an experienced boat, another 30 years need be no harder on it then the last 30 years, if you give it suitable care.
If I were looking for a PHRF racer, I'd happily buy it, this boat sounds well-equipped and looks to have some character. Probably pretty squirrely under spinnaker, but stiff upwind is not a bad trade-off.
As you say you want a cruising boat, I suggest thinking twice about this particular boat. I always recommend to buy a boat that has been used the way you intend to use it: whether blue-water, coastal cruising, racing or daysailing...By following this advice you are likely to end up with the gear you want, not with a mess of stuff that's of little value to you. The 10 racing sails on a racer might not be worth to you what the one dacron crosscut 130% roller fuling jib you want to have, would be worth. If your boat doesn't have such a sail, you'd need to buy it and the gear, then give away 9 of the 10 racing sails for a song...
Just a thought, you might look at a few cruise-equipped Catalina 30s in the low-mid teens and figure out their value to you versus this particular choice, then buy what will work best for your use.
For The Record: My intentions with this boat are not to race her. Not to say that I won’t ever as I could get the bug to do so, but the whole point of the sailboat purchase is for weekend cruising in the great lakes and short-handed sailing. No so much to the extremes of living aboard either. Just comfortable enough for a couple to get away.
I am curious however as to why you think this boat would be “squirrelly” as you say, under spinnaker? Forgive my ignorance if there is something that screams that -- that obviously from the boat. just curious?
To be honest, as far as thinking twice – I have over and over again. I passed on this boat a few months ago because at first I had thought it wasn’t what I wanted. I really wanted a Catalina 34 or an Endeavour 32 – but in reality all the Catalina’s I have looked at have been quite ragged this year. I have spent enough on surveys in the past two years to put a down payment on a good boat! Everything else, I felt was not worthy of purchase. Not to mention, at the time, the market was still flooded with all the damaged boats from the hurricanes the years prior. The endeavors all seem way out of my price range.
I heed your advice on buying a boat that was used for what you intend to use it for. That is excellent advice to any boat buyer. Yes, this boat was raced. And yes, the sails included with the boat are mostly for racing and not cruising, but the so called delivery sails that are also included are in very good condition according to survey and are more than ideal for cruising. The roller furling is something I will more than likely have to add on to this boat.
Do you think I could re-sell the racing sails? What is the used market like for Dacron Racing sails?
Thanks for the input.
I had two (smaller) boats built by Paceship, and grew up knowing the boats. They are strong, seaworthy boats that sail nicely. I think you will be very happy with the boat. She is certainly more than capable of dealing with anything that you'll encounter on the Great Lakes.
The pre-AMF ones are better quality than the AMF units. I believe the boat was originally sold as the Galaxy 32, then adopted and built by Paceship. A bit hazy on this but the people on the Paceship site will be able to help.
Paceship's original build quality was well above the current production-yacht standards - equivalent to that of Bristol, CS, and others.
Thanks for the info as well! It’s appreciated.