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wannabesailor 07-20-2007 11:08 AM

US Yacht 25' - Are they as bad as they say?
 
Hi,

I'm getting ready to purchase a 25' US Yacht for $2500, but I recently read that they are built from the molds once used for Bayliner boats. Apparently Bayliner sold the design to Pearson, who built a few boats and then they sold it to US Yacht who used it for a few years in the early 80's. The boat I'm looking at seems pretty decent, and has everything I'm looking for (except headroom). It seems well built and solid, it has a split backstay, in mast halyards, in boom outhaul, cockpit forward traveler, Lewmar winches, an enclosed head, operable portholes, a decent sail inventory, etc.

I don't plan on having a survey done, as I don't think it's worth paying 20% of the boats purchase price to have someone tell me what I already know. I've gone over every inch and I haven't found any issues. No water penetration, no loose hardware, no chain plate problems, (teak bulkheads), no soft spots, nothing really stands out. All in all it appears to be a decent little boat, which makes me wonder why everyone I've talked to says they are pieces of junk. Has anyone owned or been intimate with one of these?

This picture is not the actually boat, but exactly like it.

US 25

blt2ski 07-20-2007 12:18 PM

THAT pic is not a pic of a typicaly Bayliner that most of us know about. In reality, that boat looks like a decent designed and sailable boat. The bayliners that I know about in that range would have a deck another 1-2' higher and another row of windows.

I also do not recall any problems with some of the US Yacht boats built. Yes a spin off of Bayliner, that did go BK in the 80's, but a lot of BB's did that do to the recession at the time, including Cal, O'Day, Islander, Erickson etc that built nice boats.

Marty

camaraderie 07-20-2007 01:50 PM

Some owner reviews here:
http://www.sailboatowners.com/review...37863117890830

Sounds like it is not put together any better than the Bayliner though it looks better.

wannabesailor 07-20-2007 02:05 PM

Excellent, thanks camaraderie, that was some good info. Now I don't know what to do...

Faster 07-20-2007 03:31 PM

I sailed on one of these years ago - very small cockpit since they try to cram some accomodation into a smallish hull. Decent performance for a small boat, though.

It is actually a Gary Mull design - which is a good thing - but of concern, for example, was that fact that the main bulkhead was not tabbed into the hull. I can recall seeing light between the hull liner and the bulkhead edge.

The US 22 and 25 were Mull, the Buccaneer 295/US30 and 33 were Doug Peterson designs - decent pedigrees but reputedly poor execution.

But at least from a design point of view they were leaps ahead of the infamous Buccaneers that most associate with the name (and Bayliner).

Sailormann 07-21-2007 01:14 AM

Quote:

Has anyone owned or been intimate with one of these?
Uhmm - no - we don't cotton to that kind of thing in Canada. A vacuum cleaner maybe, but a sailboat ??? That's just wrong ;)

Ingeanous 08-20-2007 02:24 AM

Not a Bayliner Buccaneer
 
Have you ever heard of a US Yacht with blisters? I know of expensive boats 2-3 years old with them. That says alot about these 25+ year old boats! They aren
't tanks like the Buccs, but they aren't all that sluggish either...

Brian
US30 Wu-Wei

camaraderie 08-20-2007 10:21 AM

What 2-3 year old boats have you seen with blisters? Brand names please!!

us25keowee 11-14-2009 10:17 AM

us 25
 
I just recently bought a US 25 and I love it! The cockpit is a bit cramped and the tiller seems a little long, and getting to the outboard can be an adventure but over all I think she is a fine craft and I look forward to many happy years at the helm!
How ever I have found it very difficult to locate much info on this model....any help would be appreciated!

tommays 11-14-2009 03:15 PM

The issue is what you cant SEE

Which would be all the wood stringers that have a high ROT rate i am sure sailnet member US27inKS can give you expert advise on were to check as he did a COMPLETE rebuild of a 27'


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