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Following are the boats on my short list. Except for the 1973 Morgan 42 all are early to mid 1980''s and all are priced between $50,000 and $75,000.
We''re on the East Coast.
I''m wondering if I''ve missed any that should be on the list, or any that should be removed.
Bristol 35.5, Niagra 35, Islander 36, Gulfstar 37, Morgan 38, Catalina 38,
Bristol 40, Cal 39, Morgan 42
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With all due respect that is oen very weird list. I can usually look at someone''s wish list and see some kind of pattern, but your list leaves strikes me as being all over the place in quality, sailing virtues,and size that it leaves me drawing a blank. What is it that you are trying to achieve?

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Jeff,
Yes, I can see where my short list would appear at first glance to be all over the place, but if you drop the Morgan 42 (maybe too old and too big a horse), and the Bristol 40 (too short waterline, too narrow), the others are not all that far apart in many respects.
My sailing experience is eight years with a Bristol 22, and fifteen years with a Charlie Morgan designed Columbia 34. For the past three years we have been running an Alura 30 pilot cruiser, but the plan has been to get back to a nice cruiser. Mostly coastal cruising off the New England coast, and later who knows what.
My first choice is the Bristol 35.5 with a fixed keel, but these are hard to find and command a premium price. The Niagra 35 looks to be a quality cruiser with good sailing charecteristics, and a great underbody shape. The Islander 36 and the Cal 39 seem like good solid cruisers if not a little plain, and the Morgan 38 series 382, 383, and 384 all seem to have a large dedicated following. The Catalina 38 of that era has that good looking tumblehome hull, and as far as I have been able to determine they are pretty well thought of. The Gulfstar has me puzzled a bit. The specs look strong although a bit shallow draft (4''9") for her size. There are a couple of very clean ones available, they reportedly have a solid glass hull, and though I don''t recall what they look like close up, the photos show a nice sheer with good looking all around design above the waterline.
Well, that''s what I''m thinking. Possibly there are others that I have missed, and maybe you might see something in one of these models that should cause it to be droped from the list. If I have clarified my search any, maybe you can help me. Appreciate your thoughts. John Gov.
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Used to own an Islander 36 and don''t recommend them for heavy weather sailing. Nice sailers, great hull, pretty, roomy, but the bulkheads are mickey mouse. They are made up of about 5 different pieces of wood, not good. I wouldn''t take one offshore at all.

I had a friend who used to sail his C&C 25 against a Niagra 35 all the time in winds less than 15 knots... and win every time - slow boats!

The others I wouldn''t opinionate on.
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