looking for keel/centerboard design - SailNet Community
 
LinkBack Thread Tools
post #1 of 10 Old 03-19-2002 Thread Starter
Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2001
Posts: 37
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Rep Power: 0
 
looking for keel/centerboard design

I am looking for a boat that has a combination keel/centerboard design in the 27-30'' range maybe up to 31-32 ft if it was priced right.... anybody know what boats wouod fit this description....

I saw a luger 28 on the market
I also saw a oday28?
don''t know anytthing about them.. Ideas anyone?
troyaux is offline  
Quote Quick Reply Share with Facebook
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
post #2 of 10 Old 03-20-2002
Moderator
 
Jeff_H's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2000
Location: Annapolis, Md
Posts: 6,957
Thanks: 5
Thanked 163 Times in 133 Posts
Rep Power: 10
     
looking for keel/centerboard design

The Luger 28 was a very inexpensive, very poorly built kit boat. They sail very poorly by any objective standards. They were primarily designed to be the biggest boat that could be trailered. Back in the 1970''s there was one in the next slip to my boat. The owners were new sailors who had bought a partially completed Luger and finished it themselves. They were disappointed in the boat''s sailing ability and over a period of months I sailed with them quite a bit and tried to get the boat to sail better, changing rake and hardware positions etc. Installing new hardware I was not impressed with the glass work.

The Oday 28 is an alright boat. They were built in large numbers and are reasonably common. Some had OMC saildrives. I would avoid one of those. These are nice coastal cruisers but not boats that I would want to go offshore in.

Regards
Jeff
Jeff_H is offline  
Quote Quick Reply Share with Facebook
post #3 of 10 Old 03-20-2002
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2000
Posts: 309
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Rep Power: 15
 
looking for keel/centerboard design

If you are looking for a solid but inexpensive boat for offshore, you might want to look at some of the older Bristol''s. The Bristol 32 in particular is shoal draft, certainly considered offshore and can be had at a good price. Not sure it would be my absolute first choice: by today''s standards they are slow and do not have large cabins. Still, they have a tremendous following...which signifies to me that people like how they sail and that you will be able to sell it should you decide to move up. I also think they have very nice lines.

I know an older couple who sailed theirs across to the Med and down to the islands each season for many years. Their kids would fly down and spend summers with them in the islands, so I guess it had enough room... at that time.

It depends on your budget and what kind of boat you want. A more modern 32ft would be much more spacious, faster and have much more updated wiring. But...if you want an offshore 32ft for under 20k, I think a Bristol would be on the short list.

I think Jeff might have more suggestions and more info on the attributes of different designs. Also, there is a thread somewhere on pocket cruisers.

Hope this helps.
JohnDrake is offline  
Quote Quick Reply Share with Facebook
post #4 of 10 Old 03-20-2002
Senior Member
 
garyp's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Near the Pamlico River, North Carolina
Posts: 126
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Rep Power: 14
 
looking for keel/centerboard design

Troyaux: What is your price range? I have been researching keel/centerboard craft & might have suggestions.
Gary P
garyp is offline  
Quote Quick Reply Share with Facebook
post #5 of 10 Old 03-21-2002
Junior Member
 
Join Date: May 2001
Posts: 27
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Rep Power: 0
 
looking for keel/centerboard design

Anybody know anything about the mid 60''s Soverel 28.
This one is a MORC racer which has a keel/centerboard.
soverel28 is offline  
Quote Quick Reply Share with Facebook
post #6 of 10 Old 03-21-2002
Moderator
 
Jeff_H's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2000
Location: Annapolis, Md
Posts: 6,957
Thanks: 5
Thanked 163 Times in 133 Posts
Rep Power: 10
     
looking for keel/centerboard design

Sure...There were two Soverels, a father and his son. The Son designed a series of very successful race boats and just died in the last few months.

The Father was a retired naval officer who went into boat builing business. He was a no nonsense kind of a guy who built a no nonsense kind of a boat. The Soverel 28 was his first production boat. Even for its day it was simple and spartan but very solidly built and very practical. There was a certain military like quality to these boats that scared off a lot of people but in many ways made a lot of sense. Soverel was an opinionated guy and many of the details (like the standard mint green deck color)reflected his idiosyncratic view of things.

Actually, I had forgotten about the Soverel 28 but it would be a near perfect boat for Troy.

Regards
Jeff
Jeff_H is offline  
Quote Quick Reply Share with Facebook
post #7 of 10 Old 03-21-2002
Junior Member
 
Join Date: May 2001
Posts: 27
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Rep Power: 0
 
looking for keel/centerboard design

Thanks Jeff for the info in the Soverel.
I have a picture of mine if anybody is interested.It is on the Sailnet personal
pages under soverel28.
soverel28 is offline  
Quote Quick Reply Share with Facebook
post #8 of 10 Old 03-21-2002
Moderator
 
Jeff_H's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2000
Location: Annapolis, Md
Posts: 6,957
Thanks: 5
Thanked 163 Times in 133 Posts
Rep Power: 10
     
looking for keel/centerboard design

Nice Photo. I forgot that there was an ''overnighter'' version of the Soverel 28 and a standard MORC and cruising version. Yours was the overnighter version. I don''t believe your model actually was a MORC legal design because of lack of headroom. MORC had a minimum headroom and an accomodations requirement. The standard model had a much shorter cockpit and a doghouse cabin aft of the trunk cabin on your boat. The Doghose resulted in a lot of headroom for a 28 footer.

Jeff
Jeff_H is offline  
Quote Quick Reply Share with Facebook
post #9 of 10 Old 04-29-2002
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2001
Posts: 1
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Rep Power: 0
 
looking for keel/centerboard design

Soverel28, What sort of information are you looking for with regards to the Soverel 28?

As for Troyaux, I have to agree with Jeff_H, I grew up sailing/racing the "Dog Housed" version of this boat on Lake Erie with my family. Very solid boat, Mom and Dad would load myself, two brothers, a cousin, and family friend (co-owner) onto this boat for 2 week cruises around the great lakes (We''d fight over who got to sleep on deck). The boat also has a very competitive PHRF rating. As for club racing, Mom & Dad were still winning club races (double handed) against fully crewed newer/larger boats a couple of years ago. Although the boat was originally designed to be raced with a full crew of 6 plus, don''t let some of the old articles you might read about the boat scare you off. This was a lot of boat to handle in its day, but is very mild by todays standards (not to mention slow, heavy, overbuilt, and somewhat spartan). Dad has since moved up to a larger boat (not much newer though) and his partner bought out ownership in the Soverel (So it is still in the "Family"). Not to mention lots of great memories!
linusisabell is offline  
Quote Quick Reply Share with Facebook
post #10 of 10 Old 04-30-2002
Junior Member
 
Join Date: May 2001
Posts: 27
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Rep Power: 0
 
looking for keel/centerboard design

linusisabell, I think it was your dad, he sent me a brochure on this boat. It was much appreciated.
soverel28 is offline  
Quote Quick Reply Share with Facebook
Reply

Quick Reply
Message:
Options

By choosing to post the reply above you agree to the rules you agreed to when joining Sailnet.
Click Here to view those rules.

Register Now



In order to be able to post messages on the SailNet Community forums, you must first register.
Please enter your desired user name, your email address and other required details in the form below.
Please note: After entering 3 characters a list of Usernames already in use will appear and the list will disappear once a valid Username is entered.


User Name:
Password
Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.

Password:


Confirm Password:
Email Address
Please enter a valid email address for yourself.

Email Address:
OR

Log-in









Human Verification

In order to verify that you are a human and not a spam bot, please enter the answer into the following box below based on the instructions contained in the graphic.




Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools
Show Printable Version Show Printable Version
Email this Page Email this Page



Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
a few specific design questions jbarros Boat Review and Purchase Forum 5 10-02-2003 02:13 PM
best boat design for nasty chop dan s Boat Review and Purchase Forum 1 07-18-2002 03:13 PM
design of transmissions DuaneIsing Gear & Maintenance 4 05-16-2002 01:17 PM
Design Standards Cheetie Boat Review and Purchase Forum 11 04-17-2002 02:21 PM
Dodger design for a Hunter28.5 bigdreams29 Gear & Maintenance 0 03-04-2001 01:05 PM

Posting Rules  
You may post new threads
You may post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On

 
For the best viewing experience please update your browser to Google Chrome