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Since you asked and I own a Nauticat 33, I'll provide some of my opinions on these wonderful boats - as biased as they may be.

The program for your next boat sounds similar to the one me and my wife developed four years ago - before purchasing True Blue, our 1986 Nauticat 33. Although, it's no secret around here lately that due to my wife's fear of heeling, when the wind kicks up over 15-18 knots, I typically end up easing the sheets when she's aboard, or motoring to destinations more than I'd like. She's Ok with light to moderate wind sailing though.

Regardless, the sailing performance of some Nauticat models, has been stated to be among the best of any production "motorsailer" on the market. They're also well known as being the best-built motorsailers in the world - "The quintessential 50/50 motorsailer".

It is important to note however, that the tall-rig, modified fin-keel version, with a skeg-hung rudder, sails much faster than the shorter rig, full keel model. If sail performance is important to you and your wife, the deeper draft model is a must (what I have). Currently, there is only one tall-rig listed on yachtworld that I know of - a 1985 in Seattle selling for, I believe - $169 k - still under your $200k budget. You'll find various other shoal draft models, listed for just under $100 k.

On occasion, I get rare opportunities to see just how well my boat can sail in higher winds - like this past week and weekend for instance, since my wife left for NC for 2 weeks earlier this week. Before I join her late next week, I'm getting in as much solo-sailing as possible.

This morning, I sailed close to hull speed, broad reaching in 15-20 kts true wind. This may not seem fast to most monohull sailors here, but considering it's a 9 ton 33 ft ketch, with a beefy displacement/length ratio of 349, and designed specifically to motorsail, I think that's pretty impressive. Equally impressive is the vast amount of interior volume, plenty of storage, 140 gal water tank and good range under power with 160 gals of diesel split in 2 tanks.

I won't take up much space here by describing the countless amenities, build quality and many interior layout variations available, nor do I have much time since I just stopped home for some provisions and I'm about to head back down to the boat for the night. But, I urge you to become better educated with Nauticats by checking out the various online Nauticat resourses. I could post some links later if you'd like to learn more.


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Incidently . . . I negected to mention that my NC33 with it's SP90 turbo diesel, can motor at an 8 - 8.5 kt cruise - 9 - 9.5 kts at a higher rpm (not fuel efficient at that speed - but sure handy when running away from an oncoming storm).

Motorsailing of course is more fuel efficient, when the boat's apparent wind becomes much greater than prevailing light winds.
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Incidently . . . I negected to mention that my NC33 with it's SP90 turbo diesel, can motor at an 8 - 8.5 kt cruise - 9 - 9.5 kts at a higher rpm (not fuel efficient at that speed - but sure handy when running away from an oncoming storm).

Motorsailing of course is more fuel efficient, when the boat's apparent wind becomes much greater than prevailing light winds.
Just curious, but I thought hull speed on the Nauticat 33/331 was about 7.1 knots... how are you moving at 9.5 knots???
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SD, The Turbo Diesel and 22" three bladed prop enables NC33s to exceed hull speed, but as I said - inefficiently. The stern squats down somewhat at that speed and she burns fuel.

8 to 8.5 kts however, is a comfortable and effiecent cruise speed (under power - not sail of course).

Coming back from Edgartown last year, we had a following sea and running with currents. We motorsailed at 10.2 kts (GPS SOG) for a few miles.
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As you can see . . . I decided to abort my evening sail - 30 kt gusts . . . I don't trust my instincts solo-sailing in that. Besides, client meeting in the morning.
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How bad is the fuel efficiency at that speed (9-9.5 knts.)??? Also curious, how fast does she go under sail??? I've been up to 15 knots on my boat.
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I clocked 6.8 kts today in 18 kts true wind (mizzen, main & 150 Genoa) . . . a slug by your standards SD - not going to debate that. Giu would also have a laugh over that claim - with his 44 reaching 12.5 kts.

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BTW - burn rate at 8.5 kts is 2.67 gal hour at cruise . . . 800 nm range with 160 gal capacity. (could be off a few decimals - too lazy to do the math outrside of my head)

EDIT - that's motoring only at 8.5 kts - motorsailing is WAY less . . . pure sailing of course - NADA
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I clocked 6.8 kts today in 18 kts true wind (mizzen, main & 150 Genoa) . . . a slug by your standards SD - not going to debate that. Giu would also have a laugh over that claim - with his 44 reaching 12.5 kts.

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Very true... I was just curious. Your boat has significantly more tankage than mine does... also weighs a lot more. Pretty enough boat for a monohull though.
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Thanks SD - eyes of the beholder, just as well. She sold me when I first set eyes upon her . . . actually knocked me off my feet!
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