Alberg 37 or Cape Dory 36 - Page 2

VIEXILE · #11 (**permalink**) 03-25-2002

I once did a two week surveying course at Woodenboat School in Brooklin, Maine. Paul Coble, the designer of the Pearson Ariel or Triton - can''t remember - but the design is always incorrectly attributed to Alberg - made a rather cryptic comment about Cape Dorys as we inspected a 40. Something about serious thinning of glass layup as you move up the hull. He was very leery, to my surprise, of CD construction....

Jeff_H · #12 (**permalink**) 03-25-2002

I have always been a little leery of Cape Dory construction quality as well. The really early ones were really poorly constructed. While they greatly improved over the years, and they added a lot of expensive details (bronze ports, nicely done interior joiner work etc.) the glass work and framing spacing never looked all that great to me.

I can''t say that I am familiar with Paul Coble but the Triton was definitely designed by Alberg. The Ariel was also ascribed to Alberg but I have always understood that the changes to the Ariel that produced the Commander (a weekender version of the Ariel) was done at Pearson in-house. Perhaps that is the boat that Paul Coble was responsible for.

Regards
Jeff

VIEXILE · #13 (**permalink**) 03-26-2002

Paul Coble is a surveyor (or was) with worldwide practice out of Newport, R.I. I remember reading an article about him years after I did the two week intensive surveying class with him. Dammit. The point of the article was that he did a quick and dirty design of one of the ''60''s Pearsons, never really got paid and never got a ride on one of the boats. Funny thing is, Everett and Clint never mention him when they run down the model years - mostly Bill Shaw and Carl Alberg.

VIEXILE · #14 (**permalink**) 03-26-2002

For some reason I think it was the Ariel. My assumption all along has been that the Commander is an inboardless Ariel with outboard well.

Jeff_H · #15 (**permalink**) 03-26-2002

In the 1960''s there was a fad of what were called ''weekenders''. Weekenders used the hulls from coastal cruisers of the era but instead of a trunk and doghouse cabin, they had cuddy cabins with a vee-berth, head and perhaps a seaswing stove. The space saved by shortening the cabin gave them nice long cockpits.

In the Pearson line up there was an Electra which was a coastal cruiser and an Ensign which was the weekender. The Arial which was a coastal cruiser and an Commander which was the weekender. Both the Arial and the Commander were available with either an inboard Atomic 4 or an outboard well.

Jeff

KenD · #16 (**permalink**) 04-07-2002

I am not a real newbie been sailing about ten years mostly on lakes but i am on the bay now. my question is could you seadogs out there give me a list of boats with full keels I know this is strange but my wife has this fear of the keel of the boat falling off she read about this in a book where someone loosened the bolts of the husbands boat it let loose and the boat turned turtle and sunk with all aboard. She really is a good sport because she wants to buy a really safe boat for us, last one I recieved for my birthday,neat huh! I think a cheoy lee is ok but very open for sugestions thanks

Jeff_H · #17 (**permalink**) 04-07-2002

Explain to her that full keel or fin, if someone is suicidal enough to back off the keel bolts then the keel will be lost either way. Heck, few boats have a longer keel than my folkboat, but when I was restoring it we picked up the boat and the keel stayed on the cradle (bad keel bolts on a 20 year old boat). On the other hand, my family lost a Vanguard when its long encapsulated keel dropped away after being driven on the rocks during a winter storm.

Jeff

KenD · #18 (**permalink**) 04-08-2002

thanks for that bit of info Iam working with a short budget and would still like to have a list of boats in the 29 to thirty foot range with full keels I have looked at cd and bristol and even braved the Island packet dealer but they are too rich for my blood I suppose you get what you pay for ?
need help on this one kd

maiden · #19 (**permalink**) 04-08-2002

In my search to buy a boat,I have come across these full keel boats in that size range:

Triton 28'', designed by Alberg, yawl or sloop

Alberg 29''sloop

Southern Cross 28, designed by Gilmer, cutter

Leigh 30, designed by C.W. Paine,cutter

Sea Sprite 27, designed by Luders, sloop

I haven''t sailed any of them. The Alberg sure is pretty.

FlyingSailor · #20 (**permalink**) 06-06-2009

A Fuji 32 is a great boat easy to sail and dry even in rough seas and it Won't loose it's Keel. They are a great Blue water boat.