Playing the SoCal Wait List game - SailNet Community

   Search Sailnet:

 forums  store  


Quick Menu
Forums           
Articles          
Galleries        
Boat Reviews  
Classifieds     
Search SailNet 
Boat Search (new)

Shop the
SailNet Store
Anchor Locker
Boatbuilding & Repair
Charts
Clothing
Electrical
Electronics
Engine
Hatches and Portlights
Interior And Galley
Maintenance
Marine Electronics
Navigation
Other Items
Plumbing and Pumps
Rigging
Safety
Sailing Hardware
Trailer & Watersports
Clearance Items

Advertise Here






Go Back   SailNet Community > On Board > Boat Review and Purchase Forum
 Not a Member? 


Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools
  #1  
Old 09-04-2007
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Los Angeles, CA/ Jackson, WY
Posts: 6
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Rep Power: 0
heroness is on a distinguished road
Playing the SoCal Wait List game

We're 2+ years into researching our first boat, almost pulled the plug two weeks ago on a 30' Catalina, but can't seem to figure out this marina/slip thing.

Marina del Rey would be first choice, due to proximity, but with so many different marina companies within that complex, do we wait list with each, or wait to buy a boat with the option of a transferable slip? Or wait list with every marina up and down the coast? Or work with a broker who can ensure we land a slip with our boat--but then does that limit our selection of boats to one marina? Join a yacht club?

In other words, how to people new to sailing (or experienced) do this, that is, juggle their boat purchase or upgrade to coincide with slip availability? Argghhhh!!!

I figure I must be missing something...tips? Advice? Anyone who loves a certain marina that we should look at, even though it wouldn't be as convenient...?
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message Share with Facebook
  #2  
Old 09-04-2007
sailingdog's Avatar
Telstar 28
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: New England
Posts: 43,290
Thanks: 0
Thanked 11 Times in 11 Posts
Rep Power: 13
sailingdog is just really nice sailingdog is just really nice sailingdog is just really nice sailingdog is just really nice sailingdog is just really nice
It really depends... marina slip waiting lists are a problem... since you can't tell when you'll actually get a slip through one. Buying a boat and having an option on the slip it is in is a pretty good way to do it, but that limits your choices of boats.

I've never heard of a broker who can ensure a boat slip with your boat purchase, but I'd imagine there are some of them out there as well.
__________________
Sailingdog

To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

Telstar 28
New England

You know what the first rule of sailing is? ...Love. You can learn all the math in the 'verse, but you take
a boat to the sea you don't love, she'll shake you off just as sure as the turning of the worlds. Love keeps
her going when she oughta fall down, tells you she's hurting 'fore she keens. Makes her a home.

—Cpt. Mal Reynolds, Serenity (edited)

If you're new to the Sailnet Forums... please read this
To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
.

Still—DON'T READ THAT POST AGAIN.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message Share with Facebook
  #3  
Old 09-04-2007
poopdeckpappy's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: San Diego
Posts: 5,875
Thanks: 25
Thanked 41 Times in 35 Posts
Rep Power: 10
poopdeckpappy has a spectacular aura about poopdeckpappy has a spectacular aura about
Put yourself on the wait list, most slips are not transferable, but, there are creative ways around this, such as, keeping the PO on title for one year as a partner, then he transfer 100% ownership to you and you keep the slip.

Also, do NOT put your faith in a broker to finding you a slip, they will set you up, but for a limited time, or BS you up to the point of you signing the docs and the drop the bomb on you, thinking your excitment over the boat will offset the reality of not have a permanent slip.

I had a broker drop this bomb on me at the last minute and I reminded him that a slip was the deal breaker and that I was walking, within 20 mins he had a slip, but neglected to tell the marnia people that along with my liveabord stat, we have dogs ( this is against marina policy ) so now I'm on the wait list again for 4 different marinas, with zero recourse towards the broker.
__________________
1978 Tayana 37
1955 Blanchard 51 Custom ( I got a woody )

Last edited by poopdeckpappy; 09-04-2007 at 03:18 PM. Reason: piss poor spelling
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message Share with Facebook
  #4  
Old 09-04-2007
sailingdog's Avatar
Telstar 28
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: New England
Posts: 43,290
Thanks: 0
Thanked 11 Times in 11 Posts
Rep Power: 13
sailingdog is just really nice sailingdog is just really nice sailingdog is just really nice sailingdog is just really nice sailingdog is just really nice
If the broker promises you a slip...get it in writing...

Personally, I would be cautious about getting a boat unless I had a slip lined up or it was on a trailer and I had someplace I could store it and the trailer.
__________________
Sailingdog

To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

Telstar 28
New England

You know what the first rule of sailing is? ...Love. You can learn all the math in the 'verse, but you take
a boat to the sea you don't love, she'll shake you off just as sure as the turning of the worlds. Love keeps
her going when she oughta fall down, tells you she's hurting 'fore she keens. Makes her a home.

—Cpt. Mal Reynolds, Serenity (edited)

If you're new to the Sailnet Forums... please read this
To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
.

Still—DON'T READ THAT POST AGAIN.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message Share with Facebook
  #5  
Old 09-04-2007
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Los Angeles, CA/ Jackson, WY
Posts: 6
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Rep Power: 0
heroness is on a distinguished road
That's a good idea to get it in writing. Especially with the market being what it is, I suspect brokers may "say anything" to unload a boat.

Is there a reliable central network for marinas and slips online? Publication? I've searched and not found anything like this site for marinas, which surprises me. It must exist...

We wouldn't necessarily be averse to keeping the boat somewhere outside of LA--if we could legally spend time on it. That seems to be a whole challenge, however!

Thanks, and I hope other West Coasters will chime in....
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message Share with Facebook
  #6  
Old 09-04-2007
Junior Member
 
Join Date: May 2004
Posts: 3
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Rep Power: 0
thomfredrika is on a distinguished road
answer?

HI
Just reponding to your looking for a yacht may I suggest to come to NZ and you don't have hassles of looking for slips etc plus they will do anything to help you find the yacht that fits you I know its out of your way but enjoy something different we w ould help you if needed we have a Ganley Solution 50' ketch
Have fun Thom
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message Share with Facebook
  #7  
Old 09-04-2007
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Los Angeles, CA/ Jackson, WY
Posts: 6
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Rep Power: 0
heroness is on a distinguished road
Wow, talk about a great idea! That's all it takes to get me dreaming...Moorings only in NZ, then?
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message Share with Facebook
  #8  
Old 09-04-2007
poopdeckpappy's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: San Diego
Posts: 5,875
Thanks: 25
Thanked 41 Times in 35 Posts
Rep Power: 10
poopdeckpappy has a spectacular aura about poopdeckpappy has a spectacular aura about
Heroness, I get the impression you are coming in from Wy and are choosing LA area because of LAX.

If that's the case, try these, they are all within minutes of the San Diego airport, and this is a good time to get on a list for this area, most people feel the seasons over or soon to be and they start hauling out for the off season

http://www.sailorschoice.com/sd/sdmarinas.htm
__________________
1978 Tayana 37
1955 Blanchard 51 Custom ( I got a woody )
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message Share with Facebook
  #9  
Old 09-04-2007
swadiver's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Alta Loma, Ca.
Posts: 122
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Rep Power: 8
swadiver is on a distinguished road
New boats and slips

I just purchased a Catalina 30 in April of this year. I was on three waiting lists, Dana Point, Holiday Harbor San Pedro, and Shoreline Marina Long Beach. A forth marina in San Pedro had slips available for a premium price and this one would be my escape slip. The estimated wait time on the three waiting lists were from 1 year (Dana Point) to 4 months (Holiday Marina, San Pedro). Fortunately, I was lucky and my offer on a Catalina 30 Tall Rig was accepted the same week my name came up at my current location at Shoreline Marina, Long Beach. Shoreline will allow you to rent the slip for some months if you are working through the purchase process and are willing to pay the full price for the slip. I had to do this for about three weeks. They charge by the foot withing a slip range like 30' to 35'. You can also join a Yacht Club as they sometimes have slips with shorter waiting lists that are reserved for just their members. I considered doing this before my name came up. Good Luck

Scott
Catalina 30 - Namaste
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message Share with Facebook
  #10  
Old 09-05-2007
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Los Angeles, CA/ Jackson, WY
Posts: 6
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Rep Power: 0
heroness is on a distinguished road
Thanks a million for the advice on SD and getting on several waitlists. My spirits are buoyed!
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message Share with Facebook
Reply

Quick Reply
Message:
Options

By choosing to post the reply above you agree to the rules you agreed to when joining Sailnet.
Click Here to view those rules.

Register Now

In order to be able to post messages on the SailNet Community forums, you must first register.
Please enter your desired user name, your email address and other required details in the form below.
Please note: After entering 3 characters a list of Usernames already in use will appear and the list will disappear once a valid Username is entered.
User Name:
Password
Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.
Password:
Confirm Password:
Email Address
Please enter a valid email address for yourself.
Email Address:

Log-in

Human Verification

In order to verify that you are a human and not a spam bot, please enter the answer into the following box below based on the instructions contained in the graphic.




Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools

 
Posting Rules
You may post new threads
You may post replies
You may post attachments
You may edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Looking for a passage to Puka Puka (Cooks) medor Cruising & Liveaboard Forum 5 02-02-2007 05:58 PM
sailnet email list mikehoyt General Discussion (sailing related) 0 12-16-2004 07:27 PM


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 05:14 AM.

Add to My Yahoo!         
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
SEO by vBSEO 3.6.1
(c) Marine.com LLC 2000-2012

The SailNet.com store is owned and operated by a company independent of the SailNet.com forum. You are now leaving the SailNet forum. Click OK to continue or Cancel to return to the SailNet forum.