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Lyle's take on the J105 is very balanced. I 've only been aboard them a few times at boat shows, and for one relatively brief test sail. I like the way they sail (fast), and I like the retractable sprit with the asym spinnaker, but I would not want to cruise with my family or a few friends on one. And that is my big complaint about them. The 105 is a fairly large boat (34 feet +/-) with a cabin that is less accommodating than our previous 24 footer. As long as you recognize the purpose of this design - PHRF club and one-design racing with enough accommodation to serve as a crash pad - it is perfect for exactly that. But I sort of think of it as being a lot like the NY36 as far as cruisability (albeit with a much simpler rig).

It sounds like you are looking for a boat that would be a fun daysailor, performance cruiser, and that is suitable for maybe some club racing too. In the same vein as the 105, would you consider a somewhat smaller J-boat? One of their designs that has always appealed to me is the J32. The cabin is much more accomodating than the 105, but the hull form still has a performance edge. It lacks the retractable sprit, but you can still fly an asym spin from a pole or even the pulpit. This model might be too small for your purposes, but I thought I'd mention it since you are already considering the 105 and other J models are being tossed into the mix.
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Not much to add. i would have suggested C&C's by your criteria than a J-boat. C&C's tend to be more cruiser oriented, yet still quite quick. They also tend to be in better shape. I am generalizing here obviously, but J's tended to be raced and put away wet, while C&C's seemed to be cruised more and not put away wet, so the interiors seem to be in better shape.

Under no circumstances am i saying a J may not be right for you, they are very quick and tend to be easily sailed lower handed, but i am just getting lost in what you really want.

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The J105 is a pleasure to sail with dinghy like responsiveness. The asym and small jib make it easy sail shorthanded but it's pretty spartan for more than an overnight or weekend. There is great (very competitive) one design racing all over the Northeast

We sail an older Beneteau First 345 which is also quick, tracks well with it's deep keel and has been a pleasure on week long LIS cruising. I think it would be great for PHRF racing but somehow that hasn't worked into our plans. For a number of reasons however this would not answer part of your original spec to include more offshore work.
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Kirie Elite 37

I wonder what you end up getting. I am getting back into sailing very much like you did. andwith a loving and supporting new wife too LOL.

I am aboutto buy a 1984 37 Kirie Elite in need of a lot work but have not been able to fingd design and construction spec information yet beleve it or not. Not even a keel profile....can somebody help?
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This site is the best cruising site, no doubt. But at the risk of sounding disloyal, if you are considering club PHRF racing, I would go on the SailingAnarchy website and ask on their forums about whether the boats you are interested in are fairly rated under the PHRF system. After they curse you out and flame you, they will likely be happy to share their opinions on the PHRF ratings of these boats, as there are many over there who obsess on this stuff.
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thanks CB

I am the proud owner of a 37' Kirie Elite. got it friday!.
does anybody know where I can dig up specs in the inetrnet
so far I have been unsuccesful except for the basic data.
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