New crush -- Ensenada 20 - SailNet Community
 
LinkBack Thread Tools
post #1 of 8 Old 09-22-2007 Thread Starter
baDumbumbum
 
bobmcgov's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Windy Wyoming
Posts: 1,126
Thanks: 0
Thanked 36 Times in 35 Posts
Rep Power: 9
 
New crush -- Ensenada 20

Moo, You Bloody Choir. Yayayaah, it's a cow. I'm lightly smitten with this pocket cruiser, which seems as bombproof as a 1600 lb boat can be. If the coamings were any taller, they'd be a dodger. And she'll finish most races the day after the field, but hey! Our lakes are small. A slow boat will make them seem bigger, right?

We have this problem -- flat water, but winds like the North Sea. So we need a boat that isn't Panic Stations when the wind kicks over 30, which is every single day. This Ensenada 20 only carries 175 sqft with the working jib, but with a 150% genoa and spinny option to get the nose up. It's basically the Balboa hull with a ridiculously raised deck and oversized spars.

We''ll keep the Buccaneer18 in case our lives run short of stark terror. But does this boat strike you as a nice, mellow daysailer/weekender for a very high-wind location? Experiences? Thanks again.

Buccaneer18, Grainnia
SJ21, Diarmuid
Albin Ballad 30, Fionn
bobmcgov is offline  
Quote Quick Reply Share with Facebook
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
post #2 of 8 Old 09-23-2007
Poltergeist
 
poltergeist's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Richmond, VA
Posts: 179
Thanks: 0
Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post
Rep Power: 9
 
Go for it

Hey Bob --

You're right ... 175 feet is a modest sail plan, but you've got the genny for those days when it's not blowing 30. And 500+ pounds of balast should make her sit up pretty well. Looks a little light on cockpit and heavy on cabin, but if that suits your style, I'd say go for it!

Where do you live, with small lakes and big wind?

Kurt
poltergeist is offline  
Quote Quick Reply Share with Facebook
post #3 of 8 Old 09-23-2007
Wish I never found SN!
 
SimonV's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Brisbane Australia
Posts: 2,065
Thanks: 8
Thanked 4 Times in 4 Posts
Rep Power: 10
 
175 feet is a modest sail plan, modest, my underpants are 175' sqr.

Simon
Ericson 39B.
To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

I love my boat
S/V GOODONYA
Brisbane
present location Heading to the Whitsundays

To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

DELIVERY SKIPPER
Drinking Rum before 10am makes you a Pirate NOT an alcohlic
SimonV is offline  
Quote Quick Reply Share with Facebook
post #4 of 8 Old 09-23-2007
Telstar 28
 
sailingdog's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: New England
Posts: 43,290
Thanks: 0
Thanked 15 Times in 12 Posts
Rep Power: 14
         
I say go for it...

Sailingdog

To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

Telstar 28
New England

You know what the first rule of sailing is? ...Love. You can learn all the math in the 'verse, but you take
a boat to the sea you don't love, she'll shake you off just as sure as the turning of the worlds. Love keeps
her going when she oughta fall down, tells you she's hurting 'fore she keens. Makes her a home.

—Cpt. Mal Reynolds, Serenity (edited)

If you're new to the Sailnet Forums... please read this
To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
.

Still—DON'T READ THAT POST AGAIN.
sailingdog is offline  
Quote Quick Reply Share with Facebook
post #5 of 8 Old 09-23-2007 Thread Starter
baDumbumbum
 
bobmcgov's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Windy Wyoming
Posts: 1,126
Thanks: 0
Thanked 36 Times in 35 Posts
Rep Power: 9
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by SimonV View Post
175 feet is a modest sail plan, modest, my underpants are 175' sqr.
Could I borrow a pair? My jib's all blown out.

PG: Wyoming. Mean wind speed at my house is over 14 mph. It's brilliant for sailing -- never a drifting day. But the summer wind jumps from 3 kts to 30 with no apparent cause or warning. Our weather doesn't come from fronts -- it's all local sloshing around. Typical mountain stuff. So a flexible sail plan is a must; I'll sacrifice light wind performance for a boat that'll take a punch. Our Bucc18 carries 175 sqft -- at 500 lbs, all of it above waterline. I've been blown off the lake on bare poles. BTW, it's a rare week in winter that doesn't see winds over 70 mph. I've clocked 119 mph in my back yard. Eek.

The Ensenada floats in 12", can sail even with the board up (unlike the SJ21), and only draws 4' with the board down (same as the Buccaneer). It is a very small cockpit -- they claim it seats five? But for all our social-sailing plans, 90% of our sailing is onesies or twosies. We have the Bucc with its nine-foot cockpit for scaring large numbers of people at once.

One big concern -- nearly all E20s I've seen are salt-water boats. Solid iron keel....

Buccaneer18, Grainnia
SJ21, Diarmuid
Albin Ballad 30, Fionn
bobmcgov is offline  
Quote Quick Reply Share with Facebook
post #6 of 8 Old 05-01-2008
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Dallas, Tx
Posts: 26
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Rep Power: 0
 
I realize this is an old thread but I think it makes more sense in this case to keep the information about a relatively unknown boat in one place. I have one of these that I sail in the lakes around Dallas, when I finish my degree I am planning to take 6 mo's to year off and sail from Houston, with the intention of making it to the Bahamas but not out of the Carribean. I'm going to single hand and plan to do more of a coastal style, short passages trip. The relatively short duration overall means that I don't need much in the way of amenities, unlike what would be needed if a boat was supposed to be a long term home. My question is simply, am I completely out of my mind considering this boat for this trip? In it's favor, I own it already which means I don't have to spend half my budget on a boat, I'll be completely comfortable with it having sailed it for years. It's pretty stable though slow (I've already modified it to have a locking keel) and it's shallow draft (about 12 inches with the board up) would be convenient in the islands. Assuming that I will have the time to be careful about my weather windows and don't mind living on a 20 footer for that amount of time, is this boat unreasonable? If so, why?

Thanks
Simon
Simon123 is offline  
Quote Quick Reply Share with Facebook
post #7 of 8 Old 10-08-2011
1977 RK-21
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: Colchester, Vermont
Posts: 22
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Rep Power: 0
 
Bob, do you still have this Ensenada? I'm seriously in need of rigging pictures as to how the cockpit end/mainsheets are set up - especially tha dual block thing at the end of the boom? Do you have pictures, or can you describe the setup? Thanks!
pbpg is offline  
Quote Quick Reply Share with Facebook
post #8 of 8 Old 10-09-2011 Thread Starter
baDumbumbum
 
bobmcgov's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Windy Wyoming
Posts: 1,126
Thanks: 0
Thanked 36 Times in 35 Posts
Rep Power: 9
 
Hey ho. What luck to see your post -- I rarely visit SailNet these days. We did not buy the E20 -- went with the SJ21 instead. Much livelier boat, but it has its own challenges. We did have some folks roll into Isthmus Cove (Catalina Island) this summer on an E20 and tie off to the stringline: brand new sailors on their first trip anywhere, and the boat took care of them on the crossing. Also the only boat we've ever seen at Catalina smaller than ours -- tho rather heavier!

For E20 information, you might peruse these sites:

Anungoday

Ensenada 20

Rick's Sailing pages

And don't forget to search for the RK20 and Balboa 20 versions of the boat. Or go to the Trailer Sailor BBS and ask for Rick or Noemi, both of whom sail the E20. Rick did a multi-day in the Apostle Islands this summer.


AFAIK, the E20 uses your basic boom-end triangular mainsheet setup: Sheet attaches to a becket on one coaming block; over the bottom sheave on the boom end fiddle block; down and around the other coaming block; back over the boom-end fiddle, top sheave; down and around the first coaming block, and thence to a cleat on the cockpit sole. Our SJ21 was set up the same, tho we have since changed to mid-boom sheeting.


Buccaneer18, Grainnia
SJ21, Diarmuid
Albin Ballad 30, Fionn
bobmcgov is offline  
Quote Quick Reply Share with Facebook
Reply

Quick Reply
Message:
Options

By choosing to post the reply above you agree to the rules you agreed to when joining Sailnet.
Click Here to view those rules.

Register Now



In order to be able to post messages on the SailNet Community forums, you must first register.
Please enter your desired user name, your email address and other required details in the form below.
Please note: After entering 3 characters a list of Usernames already in use will appear and the list will disappear once a valid Username is entered.


User Name:
Password
Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.

Password:


Confirm Password:
Email Address
Please enter a valid email address for yourself.

Email Address:
OR

Log-in









Human Verification

In order to verify that you are a human and not a spam bot, please enter the answer into the following box below based on the instructions contained in the graphic.




Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools
Show Printable Version Show Printable Version
Email this Page Email this Page



Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
sailing Ensenada or San Diego acadie Learning to Sail 0 10-25-2006 12:34 AM
Newport to Ensenada International Yacht Race: A sailboat spectacle - Daily Pilot NewsReader News Feeds 0 04-28-2006 04:16 AM
Ensenada Baja race studiobill Crew Wanted/Available 1 04-21-2005 10:30 AM

Posting Rules  
You may post new threads
You may post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On

 
For the best viewing experience please update your browser to Google Chrome