Search Sailnet:

 forums  store  


Quick Menu
Forums           
Articles          
Galleries        
Boat Reviews  
Classifieds     
Blogs               
Boat Search (new)






Go Back   SailNet Community > General Interest Forums > Boat Review and Purchase Forum
User Name
Password
 Not a Member? 


Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Search this Thread
 Like this article?  Digg It!  or   Bookmark it!
  #21 (permalink)  
Old 10-20-2007
Raggbagger Raggbagger is offline
No I dont remember
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: VT
Posts: 135
Rep Power: 3
Raggbagger is on a distinguished road
Ishmael , If your looking for a salty boat , full of teak and character . A nice full keel to sit you steady in the water . Something your not going to get in trouble with when shes blowin snot . A boat that stands out in a crowd . If your not looking for speed or trying to go hard to weather , but want the quintessential sailboat with all the charm that the Cheoy Lee offers . I say go for it . However be sure you know whare your going to , and what you want to do with it before you shell out your greenbacks . Is a full keel suitable for the anchorage at your destinations ? Do you have to fight currents and typical wind patterns to get whare you want to be ? If the answers to these considerations can be overcome with a full keel that wont go to weather well . Then again I say go for it . You must love your boat otherwise its just a hole in the water draining your pockets , elbow grease and time . If you know that the modern performance cruiser is not going to blow your skirt up after the initial thrill is gone dont let someone else steer you from your dream . I'm sort of in the decision process myself trying to pro and con what is best for our next cruising episode . We are stuck somewhare between the practicality and performance of Tartan and the nostalgia of Tayana , Formosa and Island Trader . I have even thought about a Com-pac trailerable cruiser for the time being till the kids are a little older and the admiral and I can figure out what we want to do ? In the end they are all great boats , however what will I be happy with 5 years from now ? Thats my two cents
__________________
Its hard trying to nap with that bilge pump alarm going off all the time
Reply With Quote
  #22 (permalink)  
Old 11-13-2007
Lion35 Lion35 is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Santa Cruz, CA
Posts: 190
Rep Power: 3
Lion35 is on a distinguished road
Writing this from my 1959 Cheoy Lee Lion and I have to say the comments above about Cheoy Lee build quality don't sit well with my experience. Does my boat demand a lot of work, h__l yes. Do I think she's extremely well made and designed, yes (Author Robb). Was the, thankfully minimum, plywood used in her construction junk, yes, the glue, not the teak plys. Did all of the electrical need replacing, yes; will your boat need new wiring when she's 40 years old? probably yes. Where will most production boats be when their 48 years old, you tell me?
Reply With Quote
  #23 (permalink)  
Old 11-14-2007
sahara sahara is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Posts: 79
Rep Power: 3
sahara is on a distinguished road
We had a Cheoy Lee Offshore 41 in the late 70's, early 80's, Ray Richards design. It was a truly gorgeous boat with some nagging problems.

The toerail and port lights leaked from almost day 1. All of the deck hardware and winches were made by CL, and were decidedly undersized and inferior. I pulled a turning block out of the toerail going upwind in moderate conditions. We ended up replacing the winches, blocks, traveler, etc. with domestic.

Also - the mast was deck-stepped and, to accomodate the enormous circular saloon table, there was no bulkhead in way of the chainplates. Because of this, the hull flexed a lot underway, and there was no way to keep the rigging tight. When underway, a lot of the cabinetry would shift around because it was not tabbed to the hull. Etc., etc.

Something that was not really an issue then, but might be today, was that the engine was under the cabin sole, actually down in the keel sump, without a pan, so any leaks would go straight to the bilge water.

That said, I think a lot of boats built in the late 70's were not as good as boats that came earlier or later, and I think a lot of the earlier CL's deserve their reputation for better quality than what we saw. The later 70's were just not a great time for lots of things - remember AMC Pacer's and Gremlins?

Again, these comments are specific to this boat, not to the earlier Rhodes Reliant and Robb designs, which are well regarded. If I was looking at a late 70's Cheoy Lee, I would hire a skeptical surveyor and listen to him.

Part of our issue was that we dicided to do some PHRF racing in the cruising canvas classes, and so may have subjected the rig and hardware to stresses CL didn't anticipate, but still, when we went looking for a replacement, CL was not on the list.
Reply With Quote
Sponsored Ad
  #24 (permalink)  
Old 01-09-2008
rugeley rugeley is offline
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Clear Lake Shores, Texas
Posts: 9
Rep Power: 0
rugeley is on a distinguished road
i love my cheoy lee. In fact, i dare anyone to show me a thicker hull on a similar sized yacht. my wooden spars about about 75% stronger than comparable aluminum, my rigging is over-sized from the factory, put me oan a course and i'll hold it until something shoves me off, my hull is bullet (coral) proof, my shape is similar to an 18 year old cheerleader, and with a new paint job i am the envy of everyone who likes to sail in the marina. I admit to a leaky deck, but only until i removed the teak. find any dry teak deck after 30 years and you have found a prize! i could have more ballast, but i can add more ballast.
far more people talk than know.

Hugh (sitting pretty aboard the Cheoy Lee kethc "Chinquapin")
Reply With Quote
Reply



Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
cheoy lee 31 offshore jte1343 Boat Review and Purchase Forum 17 09-09-2009 01:30 AM
Cheoy Lee Offshore 28 islandman2 Boat Review and Purchase Forum 4 06-14-2006 09:42 AM
Cheoy lee 44 Ketch ISLANDCHIEF60 Boat Review and Purchase Forum 1 05-11-2005 09:11 AM
Cheoy Lee ballast/displacement ratio garyp Boat Review and Purchase Forum 9 03-23-2004 11:48 PM
Cheoy Lee Offshore 41 FrankDowney Boat Review and Purchase Forum 2 02-28-2002 08:08 AM

Page generated in 2.9988 seconds (93.46% PHP - 6.54% MySQL) with 15 queries
Add to My Yahoo!         
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.6.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2009, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
SEO by vBSEO 3.0.0 RC8
(c) Sailnet 2000-2006