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I luvya man, but you gotta lay off the "safety" thing and the A-4. It just isn't born out by years of use and the lack of news about sailboats catching fire because of the gas.

On either of these tubs, I'd go with the 30hp gas over a 12-18HP diesel. If the OP was going far beyond the shore out where y'all play, then get a diesel. For coastal and inland, stay with the gas.

I've also not seen much if any valuation difference between the two.
I will second the notion of running like the wind away from the dreaded volvo. While they are "good" engines, the repairs will kill you.

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Another brand, harder to find from the mid 80's, typically 15-25K or so, is a Jeanneu Arcadia, about 29', or the Attallia at 31' or theres abouts. Both can be found with CB's, or with Fin keels at 5.5' in draft. The Arcadia is a lot hrder to find, the Attallia not as hard.

If you are looking for something more stable while at anchor, you might look at some of the full keel style boats, vs fin ro CB model boats too, such as a westsail 28 as an example. Altho this particular boat is slower than a dead slug going backwards!

Otherwise, others have mentioned the typical boats you will find.


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Unhappy Shopping trip to NY...

Well, once again I remembered why I don't like big cities... 7 hours to visit only two brokers.
The catalina I was checking out was a 1982...
* As usual, it had the cat smile and the crack at the back of the keel connection line. Guess what? The broker tells me that is "normal" and even a year old boat would have it...
Stress cracks around corners of the cabin, needs a new gelcoat, railing foots are rusted, bees in the anchor locker, water (about 1.5-2") in bilge, (as someone warned me about the engine compartment) the engine is salted and shaft looks like a rust rod, galley equipment rusted out, the cushions are stained, the carpet (I think I saw it growing legs to walk away),electronics are from the time they were invented ,there is a mold smell in cabin, electrical wirings were done by DIY method, only new thing was the new stereo which wasn't working! ... Oh and my favorite; the vhf antenna was tied to the separator wall in the cabin! I mean tied, not for placing it on the mast when it's stepped, but wired there!

I checked out a Hunter 31 (1985)... Pretty darn clean, to be honest too clean! Someone went through that boat like crazy... (Little shampoo bottles in head, glasses and silverware setup with napkins. For a second I thought we interrupted their dinner or something... Overall; the stress cracks around the lifeline and railing posts, the diesel looks clean but wouldn't know without getting it checked, iced hatches, water in the bilge,etc. etc. etc....

I know that I should be just graceful, but I just want to be on the safe side of the line...

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I would recommend an Aloha. The 28, which is also known as the 8.5, is a very big 28 footer, with the headroom, galley space and comfort that you are looking for. They are reasonably quick boats and strongly built. You should be able to get a nice one in your price range. I don't think you'll find many boats out there that are as spacious.

The Aloha 30's are a different animal, built to compete with the Express 30/ CS 30, etc. The 32's and 34's are great boats as well, but nice ones will probably cost more than your budget.


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Aloha, arcadia, and attalia...

I haven't heard those guys... Back to the yachtworld.com-mobile (Theme music) ...
The C30T broke my heart today... The fat lady (as we call the wide beam boats in Turkey) was neglected... A lot of promise in that boat with a lot to comprimise... Maybe I should offer him 5K and spend 15K to fix her up? Not a good idea... After a while on dry land, even being aboard on dry dock made my blood excited... I just could picture myself sailing her with her old glory back... Dream, dream, dream... You know the song...

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Question So when did they?

So when did they used to built boats like tanks? 60s? 70s? I mean since I'm not after speed but durability and comfort... Maybe I should extend my search to older years...
BTW, check out this Dutch ad, 32' admiral, those guys know how to build a boat! Look at the plating of the bow! Darn!

http://www.yachtworld.com/core/listi...ck&searchtype=

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Quick note: Everyone who can make it to the LIS next season is invited for a sailing picnic... I'll make sure my wife cooks some good Turkish cuisine... Keep me on my toes for that promise

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Any thought on Buccaneer? Never heard that one... Has a real shoal keel...

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Buccaneers aren't known for their sailing characteristics. and thanks for the invite. Turkish cuisine is quite good, used to go to a Turkish restaurant regularly when I lived near WDC.

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For some reason, NE states don't have any older boats for sale... They don't last around here long?

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