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Seeking Vintage wood ice breaking

ship! Last seen dropping off Explorers near the north pole sometime after (before?) the turn of the 18th century! Will make offer after survey! Some maintenance issues are expected!
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You are looking for the Fram. The strongest wood boat ever built and a veteran artic explorer. Designed and built by Colin Archer for Fridtjof Nansen's 1893 Arctic expedition. She was also used by Otto Sverdrup, Oscar Wisting, and Roald Amundsen between 1893 and 1912. She is currently laying in Oslo.
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Wow Robert! are the pictures of it anywhere?

I was thinking of The Scott expedition ship. That sunk right? The ice crushed it?

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Wow Robert! are the pictures of it anywhere?

I was thinking of The Scott expedition ship. That sunk right? The ice crushed it?

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Are you thinking of Ernest Shackleton and his 1914Ė1916 Endurance Expedition. The Endurance was trapped by the ice and sunk. Shackleton then made a remarkable small boat voyage to organize the rescue of his crew.
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If you ever get the chance, you have to read one of the many outstanding books written on Shackelton. His story of survival and of small boat sailing in the Southern Ocean is simply amazing.

The Ross Sea Party story is even more amazing.
These men risked and gave their lives to lay food goods and supplies for Shackelton not knowing that he was never going to make it.

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The saying "wooden ships and Iron men" is more true than most of we spoiled pampered types can ever truly understand.
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The saying "wooden ships and Iron men" is more true than most of we spoiled pampered types can ever truly understand.
Iron men and wooden ships. Yes, itís hard to describe being on a footrope and leaning over a spar out over the water. I did it at a time when you didnít use a safety line and itís not one hand for the ship and one for yourself. Instead you use both hands and kick back on the footrope to stay up there. We sailed across the Bay of Biscay in December so I even had the chance to be aloft during a winter gale in the north Atlantic. It was exciting when I was 22 but I wouldnít go aloft today.
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Yes at first it was:
Iron men and wooden ships.
Then it was Iron ships and wooden men.
Now it is FiberGlass boats and Candy Asses...

What do you mean we are lost?? Isn't that land over there?
Yah.... But am not sure if it the state of Maine or Ireland.....?
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