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Dealer's survey--NOT!

If the cost of a survey is going to put you over budget on a $100k boat--you can't afford the boat!

Seriously, it is foolish to purchase any boat without a survey that you commission.
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I learned a long time ago that surveyors usually fall into two different camps. A buyer's surveyor would be the guy who is anal about everything right down to the sheaves at the mast head need lubrication. Then their's the Sellers surveyor, a guy that basically does a cursory look writes down a few things and tells you it a great boat. Gets his check and leaves. My first boat, The survey was 62 pages of issues and descriptions. it almost scared me off the boat. It took close to 8 hours for that survey. When I bought a trawler the survey took 3 hours including test run and and I got a "your getting a great boat here" (the boat sucked btw)

When selecting a surveyor it helps to ask around the marina and if at all possible see some samples of surveys that person has done so you can determine out what "camp" they fall into.

As a side note, when I sold my last sailboat, the buyer brought with him for the test sail two different surveyors and diesel mechanic and someone that couldn't swim. Halfway through the test sail the two surveyors were screaming at each other and at the mechanic each saying that the other had no clue. Surprisingly the buyer bought the boat.
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TB -- not only am I more convinced than before, but more importanly thanks to you all I now have the overwhelming support of the SailNet gurus to back me up when I explain to the Admiral why we need to take the additional dollars out of the sailing kitty to get the surveys done

Thanks to everyone for the reasoned and clear responses!

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back me up when I explain to the Admiral why we need to take the additional dollars out of the sailing kitty to get the surveys done

Thanks to everyone for the reasoned and clear responses!

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I'm surprised it's not the admiral who's pushing for the survey! I know on my team I'm usually the one who is more casual about this sort of thing, and it's the DW that checks and re-checks, etc.

I'm glad we could help!

Keep us posted, we love to live vicariously through others....

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Absolutely go for the survey. You don't know how good the dealer's surveyor was and if there were any hidden agendas. The cost of the survey is far outweighed by the risk you would be taking if you did not have one done. Good luck.
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It's real important that you be present at the survey. You can gauge the surveyor's attitude and expertise. You'll learn about your prospective new boat too. It's not just a matter of "trusting" the dealer, it's a matter of knowing as much as can about a major investment.
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I'd be there for the survey too, then if they find an issue, you can quiz them to figure out HOW big an issue you have! I ended up with a loose cutless bearing. Insurance wanted it fixed. Talked to surveyer after resplashed, he said he would run it until next haul out in 2 yrs or so. If it was a high speed powerboat turning 10K r's, then fix NOW, slow rpm sailboat......he had to write it down, but it was not that loose. Current owner said it came from teh last haulout, when they put on a max prop, new shaft, cutlass etc.

Just things to think about, I also agree about the engine survey, but would add get oil analysis's down on engine and tranny fluids!

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I'll flog this dead horse just for good measure .

$500 or less for a survey on a 100K


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