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Recommendations on a 22 - 26 ft weekender?

Hi Jeff,
Yes, I agree with awatson; alot of good info.
I''ve always sailed heavier boats so I''m not to up on that kind of info, and, sadly for me, I''ve never bothered to learn.
It''s good stuff to know.

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Recommendations on a 22 - 26 ft weekender?

I have a boat for sale that meets many of
your requirements. Sleeping 4 wouldn''t be
a probably. Having space for everything
4 people would bring on a weekend trip
would be a problem. Outboard. Not a fast
boat, but I have raced it (2 flags -2nd and
3rd).

It an O''Day 25. Not a great boat, but a
good boat.

http://home.rochester.rr.com/cfischer/oday.htm
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Recommendations on a 22 - 26 ft weekender?

Born and raised in New England and done some sailing on and like the Odays and Pearsons. Currently own a Wathins 23. Not as fast as the Odays or Pearsons, but built like a tank, and tend to be a bit roomier for their size with nice appointments below. Also swing keel for getting in close to shore and easy trailering. The Watkins 25s and 27s offer a lot of room. Boat really comes into it''s own in moderate to strong winds. Designed and built to be a coastal cruiser and not a combo racer/cruiser or cruiser/racer. See if you can get invited for a test sail on some Pearsons, Odays, Watkins, etc. Not as hard as it sounds, as active owners are always happy to show off their boats. You''d want to test drive a car before you buy it!
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Recommendations on a 22 - 26 ft weekender?

I used to have a Pearson 26 in Maine. I kept her in Tenants Harbor and cruised the area with a family of four, the kids were early teens, and a large dog. It was a nice boat for that and the purchase was inexpensive. I added a spinnaker and a loran, pre GPS days! I understand its for sale now, still in the tenants harbor area, cheap. The owner has a small trawler now. let me know if you''re interested and I can give you directions to the owners house.

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Recommendations on a 22 - 26 ft weekender?

I also sail a 25'' O''Day and have also been very pleased. Handles well, decent speed, affordable, trailers well behind 3/4 pick-up. Recent single-hand around DelMarVa peninsula (8 day trip). Be happy to answer any specific questions.
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Recommendations on a 22 - 26 ft weekender?

Another great boat to look at would be a Seafarer. You could pick up a 23 or a 26 footer in your price range in excellent condition. These sleep four pretty easy, but gear for four adults might be a bit tough. They were made some with deisel and some with outboards.
These boats have excellent manners under sail. They are stable and very solidly built.
Jeff mentioned the Ranger 23 as a personal favorite. The Seafarer and the Ranger are close cousins, not unlike Pontiac and Oldsmobile. They are both McCurdy and Rhodes designs. I had mine for a number a years and loved every moment of it.

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The Ranger 23 and the Seafarer 23 are extremely different boats. The Ranger 23 is a Gary Mull design that benefits the fact that Gary Mull was one of the most tallented designers of that era and from his involvement in some of the best funded Grand Prix racing efforts of that day.

The Seafarer 23 was a McCurdy and Rhodes design and was not a very good design by any stretch of the imagination.

While the Ranger of that era were not exactly paragons of build quality, having worked on both boats, the Seafarers really lacked the build quality of a Ranger.

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Recommendations on a 22 - 26 ft weekender?

Haven''t seen anyone mention a Grampian?
Heavy, well built, comfortable, inexpensive, and fun to sail!

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Recommendations on a 22 - 26 ft weekender?

With regards to your questions about Grampians the answer very much depends on the model. The Grampian Classic 22 and the Grampian Classic 31''s were very nice boats. The Classic 22 was a very nice, light weight daysailor/overnighter designed by C&C. I actually owned one and really thought these were fun boats to sail. They were reasonably well built and fairly inexpensive but not particularly "heavy or comfortable". The Classic 31''s were heavier more traditional VanDyne designs and were also very nice boats. They come up for sail at pretty reasonable prices from time to time.

At some point in the late 1960''s Grampian totally retooled its line coming out with the Grampian 23, 26 and 30. These were not very good boats and I would say that with the posible exception of being inexpensive they would not meet any of your desired criteria,"Heavy, well built, comfortable, inexpensive, and fun to sail". They were pretty much value oriented boats with mediocre designs and pretty shoddy workmanship.

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The Beneteau 235 might be a nice little boat for you to look into. Fast, but with a nice layout below for overnighting. (Some layouts can sleep 4 uncomfortably - hah!) Should be decent in the price range, too. Even the fixed keel can be easily trailered to different destinations.

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