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Purchasing a TMI30 (ticon 30) need

other owners/previous owners input if any available before completing the
deal. this one is neglected and very run down, but it looks like some money and some hand labour will bring her back to being a very nice yacht.
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We have a later model Ticon 30 which had very good build quality and is well outfitted. I'm not sure if the TMI 30's would be the same.

As you've probably noticed, it's very roomy for a 30 footer. It is a very capable coastal / inland cruiser as well. We really enjoy our boat.

It may be impossible for you to find any advice on repairs you need to make that are specific to the boat (compared to, say a Catalina 30). On the other hand, the engine is a Universal Diesel M15, very common, and other components are likewise.

Like any other boat, you have to balance the buying price with the amount of time and money that it will take to bring it to the shape you want it to be.
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Ref TMI/Ticon 30, Halsey Herreshoff design seems

well built and overall a nice boat. Thank you for your reply. I have a surveyor getting onboard on Thursday. Perhaps you might have an answer to some questions

Do you know what commodity makes up the deck laminate, balsa or foam core of some kind.

Same question in regards to the upper part of the hull?, or is this just solid glass?

Do you know how the deck to hull flange joint is made up and fastened?

Are you happy with the way the mast is supported, or d you feel some addditinal stays wold be sensible?

I'm hoping that with some really nice sails she will point and perform, her ballast to weight ratio looks very good. How high do you reckon you can point, will she get down to 30 degree and stay steady in the 35-40 area?

What sort of prop do you have? I'm thinking Max to help reversing.

I'm going to be keeping her on Lake Michigan, Muskegon for starters, eventually will probably head south down the islands to my old haunting ground St. Lucia. I get the impression she will make out to be a good sea boat, your opinion?

Hope I'm not being a nuisance and appreciate you input

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well built and overall a nice boat. Thank you for your reply. I have a surveyor getting onboard on Thursday. Perhaps you might have an answer to some questions

Do you know what commodity makes up the deck laminate, balsa or foam core of some kind. Marine Plywood

Same question in regards to the upper part of the hull?, or is this just solid glass? Solid Glass

Do you know how the deck to hull flange joint is made up and fastened? Unknown, but I'll check.

Are you happy with the way the mast is supported, or d you feel some addditinal stays wold be sensible? Mast is keel stepped with upper and lower shrouds, foil / furler forestay, backstay with tensioner. All are sufficiently well built. Sailed this summer on Lake Huron in 25 kt winds with 150 genoa and no reef in main. No mast pumping, undue flexing or anything to suggest any issues. The rig is solid. This boat has done the Port Huron to Makinaw race 5 times.

I'm hoping that with some really nice sails she will point and perform, her ballast to weight ratio looks very good. How high do you reckon you can point, will she get down to 30 degree and stay steady in the 35-40 area?
The fractional rig makes the boat point quite well. My sails are 6 years old but yes, it points like that, low 30's.

What sort of prop do you have? I'm thinking Max to help reversing. We have the original prop, two blades, 12", non-folding. No issues reversing but we don't spend a lot of time going in that direction.

I'm going to be keeping her on Lake Michigan, Muskegon for starters, eventually will probably head south down the islands to my old haunting ground St. Lucia. I get the impression she will make out to be a good sea boat, your opinion? We sail on Lake Huron, no ocean experience. In my opinion, it's much the same hull shape, ballast, etc as a Catalina 30. Nice inland / coastal cruiser, not for open ocean. Again, that's just my opinion.

Hope I'm not being a nuisance and appreciate you input. No trouble Chris. Not many of these around. I'm glad to help. There are a couple of Ticon 30's for sale here if that one doesn't work out for you.

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Correction on the deck laminate. The cockpit sole is marine plywood cored. The superstructure is balsa cored.

The hull/deck joint is an inward molded flange on the hull with the deck molding laid over and mechanically and chemically fastened to the hull.
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Re: Purchasing a TMI30 (ticon 30) need

Is this post still active? If yes, I recently purchased a Ticon 30 (1985) and I am seeking information: (1) Has anyone installed a windlass on the Ticon 30 (1985)? If yes, the deck where the windlass has to be installed strong enough or does it need to be reinforced? What's the core in this area of the boat?

(2) Has anyone converted the 2 bunk-over-bunk configuration to a single v-berth?

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Re: Purchasing a TMI30 (ticon 30) need

Morse, did you ever find answers to your questions? I have an 85 Ticon as well and would be curious as to what you found out.


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Re: Purchasing a TMI30 (ticon 30) need

Hi Dan, Unfortunately I've not received any reply to my questions. I will be at the boat show in Toronto next week and hope to gather some information. Where approx. are you based?
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Re: Purchasing a TMI30 (ticon 30) need

The Ticon 30 dpes not have a plywood core in the deck, it is balsa. The hull deck joint is a shoe box flange type joint secured with stainless steel fasteners through the toe rail.

I have serious concerns about surveying a boat in the current temperatures in Indiana.
Take a look at "Surveying Frozen Boats"

I have not surveyed one of these in a couple of years but let me look at my files, I think I can blank out personal info and attach a pdf that will give you an idea of what I found.
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