First, sorry for the length of this post
Well, went and saw some boats today at the brokerage. Sadly the Catalina 27 sold a few days ago, (guess it was a good deal
The other two boats I was interested in didn't turn out so well.
The Beneteau has some water damage to the headliner. The broker said most of the headliner needs to be replaced, and most likely most/all the deck hardware needs to rebed in order to get rid of the leaks. He also said the interior needed some work. I didn't actually go see this one though, so it may not be as bad as it sounds.
The Grampian was.... well not pretty... It's a sad sight right now. When we opened the cabin, there was a STRONG smell of gasoline. Seems like a fuel leak somewhere. What really worries me though is on the outside of the hull, about a foot forward of where the prop shaft comes out of the hull, the gas has seeped through the hull.
IE the hull is "wet" there and smells like gas. I'm no fiberglass expert, but that can't be good. Aside from that there seems to be some trouble at the keel to hull joint. Not quite sure what's going on there under the bottom paint, but doesn't look too safe. At any rate it would need a complete bottom job. The interior needs some work too. The headliner need to be replaced in a few spots as well as a few other things. Though... the broker said I could probably get it for a LOT cheaper then it was listed... as in "make an offer", so depending on the costs to fix these things, it MAY still be worth looking into.
Aside from that, The broker showed me 3 other boats, 2 of them I like enough to look into.
The first is a 29 foot Cascade from 1968. Yes it's old, but it's been more or less completely restored inside and out. Broker said the owner's put around $15,000 into it. Owner is selling because he was transfered to the west coast. (That's got to suck for him...)
(once again, sorry about the mangled links)
www dot yachtworld dot com/core/listing/boatFullDetails.jsp?boat_id=1556335
Honestly, for the price it is looking really good. New electrical, New Interior, New "used" diesel motor, recently repainted, Interior like new. etc... of course it's not "perfect", but at that price.... There is one or two things I don't like about it though.
- There seems to be some water leakage from the "windows" (Ok, so I know there's a proper name for them, but it escapes me for the moment
) This has "darkened" the wood underneath them. Is this fixable without replacing the actual wood?
- It feels "narrow". May just be the layout, but whatever.
- A nav station that small is pretty pointless IMO... taking up space.
- Not sure how useful that fridge is going to be... though you never know
- No quarter berth (well there is "technically" one, but I wouldn't even stick a kid into it).
- Winches are OEM... they look antique...
All that said, it still is only $7,900, leaves a lot left over for "upgrades"
The Other boat that he showed me that I liked was a 1985 C&C 27
www dot yachtworld dot com/core/listing/boatFullDetails.jsp?boat_id=1749682
This boat is immaculate
There doesn't appear to be a thing wrong with it. It's cabin is VERY spacious, and appears in perfect shape. The cockpit is also a lot more spacious then the Cascade. It also feels a LOT wider (which I like). It also as a small bonus comes with a "shelter" thing. Not sure how it's called. It's for winter storage, a frame that holds up canvas to keep the snow off of it. Most boats use a couple of tarps with bungee cords for the same effect. This ones a "proper" one. It also has a "Bimini?" for the cockpit. It also has VC-17 bottom paint and newish sails (05 I believe) This boat's a "turn-key" boat as the broker stated. He doesn't predict any problems at inspection. Only downside to this one is the cost, it seems to be in line with other boats of this age/size and model, but it's also twice as much as the Cascade. The C&C does have a more shoal draft though, so would be better in my local waters if I ever wanted to...
There you have it. Does anyone have any advice? Anyone ever sailed on a Cascade?
Also regarding registration, here's what the broker had to say. I can register the boat in Vermont no problem. There I pay 6% sales tax. I can bring the boat to Canada for trips, working on it, and even winter storage, though i can't "keep" the boat in Canada. If I register it in Canada, I pay 15% sales tax, but then the paperwork is less...
I hate decisions.... On the other hand this is much fun
Also, for those that are going to suggest it, don't worry, I will be getting whichever boat I decide upon inspected. In fact, it will get inspected twice
Once by my uncle who's been working on/in/around boats his entire life, and if it passes him, then a "professional" inspection