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Cool 2 better then 1?

those of you that have 2 staterooms.. do you find that guests are more willing to come stay on your boat? Everyone likes privacy for sure.

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Wow, am I unqualified to answer this. I've never had *two* staterooms, much less one. I'm not even sure I heard the term "stateroom" in relation to the 25 to 40-foot auxiliary sailboats (usually belonging to others, which I was delivering, or had borrowed) I used to sail. We just talked about "bunks", period.

I guess if you have a center-cockpit boat, then maybe you have two staterooms. Maybe this is easier for attracting company who value privacy.

To me, anyone who gets on a cruising sailboat of less than, say, 70 feet in length, abandons all hope of privacy, other than in the head. If you value privacy, go to a hotel rather than a sailboat. If you like to sail, give up the privacy til you're in a hotel or back home.

This brings up another topic. Any boat big enough to have two separate staterooms is going be too fat to sail well. I'd rather sail fast during the day than go 3 knots so as to have lots of cabin space at night.

I'm sure I've done a very bad job of answering your question, I've sorta ranted, my apologies. Maybe it'll spark some discussion. But I've always been irritated by the question, "how many does it sleep?" I would rather know, "how well does she sail" and worry about the sleeping later.
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I think privacy is an illusion in most boats under 60 feet anyway, and that in smaller boats the "need" for enclosed cabins can really chop up an otherwise decent layout.

Can't say that we've ever had someone refuse to join us for a weekend on account of "lack of privacy". Of course, they probably wouldn't necessarily say so even if that was the case, I suppose.

We definitely wanted 2 doubles this time around, but not so much for "privacy" but to avoid the inconvenience of making and unmaking beds in the main salon each day.

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This was a deal breaker for my wife. Our previous boat was a Catalina 34 with two separate sleeping cabins. We both came to appreciate the separate cabins for taking guests out although while shopping for our next boat, I still considered several that had quarter berths but the boss put her foot down and wanted two cabins again. I'm happy if the wife is happy, so it all worked out.

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Ok. err.. call em cabins Yes.. I think I saw a Catalina 38 had one under the cockpit. not sure. looked at so many boats at the show(s)

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Here's a boat with some decent cabin space. LINK

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I second the 2 cabin idea. It is perfect for 2 couples and even though they are cabins (v berth etc) people do like to have a private area..it doesnt have to be much but still is their private area. Having to deal with a bed in the salon doesnt doesnt appeal to me..well thos are some of my wifes thoughts.. hope it helps.


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I don't think people coming to your boat expect privacy, if they do they won't last long. I also don't think they relate to "cabins". What they can relate to is "how many does it sleep comfortably". That will usually determine their interest in spending time abord.
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I have to say this thought has never crossed my mind. We have guests for dinner or drinks at dock, or we meet people when sailing, or sometimes we have crew, and we stick them where they will fit and tack a blanket in a strategic spot.

On the new boat, I will be putting a fold-up pipe berth (basically a framed hammock or "stretcher" thing) in the forepeak where the workshop is. That way, a single crew, if he or she chooses, can have a small, dark, triangular "room" to themselves if so desired. At least they'll be a 12 VDC outlet, a 120 VAC plug and plenty of woodworking equipment at hand.

To be honest, I don't have guests when we travel in the conventional sense. I have them on three-hour cruises through the harbour, but anyone who actually stays aboard is officially "crew" and gets put into the watch and chores rotation, which can be formal or informal. (See Alex's "Welcome to Portugal...do you know how to fix a head?" approach). Everyone works on my boat, including the children. They may not work particularly hard (here...chop vegetables!), but it isn't a charter boat and they will sleep where it is logical for them to do so.

That being said, if we were on 24-hour passage, I have no problem giving up the "aft stateroom" (ha-ha!) because I prefer to sleep in a pilot berth in such situations.
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its only an issue when they see the green light of the
webcam on. then, again, depending on the amount of adult beverages consumed...

We are not primarily on earth to see through one another, but to see one another through

Some people are like slinkies: not really good for anything... but you can't help laughing when you push them down the stairs
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