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I spoke to John Neal via email who provide the updated list and he gave me permission to link or copy it as long as I stated the origin.

Good question..we think alike. Last thing I need is a lawsuit for copyright infringement.


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I'm boycotting the list until they add the Passport 40 (they have many other Passport's!!!) and at least one Tayana.

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All...I e-mailed John and confirmed that he is OK with the posting of his list here. Thank you John!
Also...for those thinking about a bluewater boat, he has several very well written generic posts about what to look for and how to decide on what is right for you. He also runs a reasonably priced personal consulting service for individuals who need ideas and specific advice and certainly has the credentials to offer such advice. Read more here:
http://www.mahina.com/cruise.html

I of course, do not agree with his decision to leave off the Tayanas from his list though he is entitled to his opinion. My guess is that it has to do with personal or friends experience. Tayanas (and others on his list) built in the 80's have lots of reported deck and tank problems, so perhaps this enters his thinking. BUT...otherwise they are very fine, seaworthy boats built to stand up to the oceans of the world. At this point, many if not most of the boats with such issues have been repaired and the problems are non-existant and others may be priced to account for the work still to be done. Obviously...a good surveyor can tell the tale...but the Tayanas are priced well below comparatively robust vessels from the same period and with most designed by Perry, are fine sailing boats. Many T37's have sailed the worlds oceans in safety and comfort and it is difficult for me to think of many other mid-80's boats of this size that provide such good value on the used boat market.

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What you didnt trust me Cam..I could never lie to a moderator????


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No Sab...just wanted to have something for the files as it was not within copyright guidelines as it stood. Also wanted John to have look at it and make sure he was happy with how we treated it and the links. I always trust Canucks...ever since one of my canuck frat brothers "borrowed" my stereo. His comment..."If I had known it was yours I wouldn't have taken it eh?" ...and I believed him too!! ...no better friends...no worse enemies!!

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Bruce Roberts Designs

What about Bruce Roberts design steel hulls, or fiberglass rof that matter? granted they're primarily non production homemade type boats but assuming constructed correctly does anyone have any input on their sailing performance and blue water capabilities? I'm seriously considering building one out of aluminum over the next 4-5yrs, get kiddos through college, and the go cruising in semi retirement.
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Good Old Boat magazine had a 3 part article on this subject in the last 3 issues.
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gentryd..try thi thread!
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