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Old 02-04-2008
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A neat boat for someone looking for a bargain/project

I happened to spot this Farr 1104 for sale online in San Diego for $8,000. These were pretty neat boats that sailed very well. They were fast, easy to handle, quite seaworthy and so on. This one appears to have had much of its interior stripped, but there is enough there that you could buy the old girl and slowly bring her back over time. I am not connected with this boat in any way. I am only mentioning her because I keep seeing people looking for quality cheap boats and happened to see this one and thought it might work for someone..

http://www.yachtworld.com/core/listi...ng_id=1825&url=

Here's Farr's write up on that model:

http://www.farrdesign.com/051.htm

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This one appears to have had much of its interior stripped
I think Giulietta knows the guy who did this to that boat?
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What a beauty! You gotta love the hull color.
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Okay, So, you paint her white.....
http://www.yachtworld.com/core/listi...+1&photo=1&url=

Or dark blue.....
http://www.yachtworld.com/core/listi...hoto+2&photo=2


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Nice, fast IOR boat. Can be a handful running offwind with the death rolls but nothing a blooper and skilled helmsman couldn't handle.
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I saw that a few days ago as well.

Any takers to help me sail her back across the pond? I have a handheld gps and a cb radio...

Seriously now, this is a good opportunity. Exactly what I am looking for, except over here..

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Charlie,

One of the nice things about the 1104 was that they did not have the deathroll, excitation rolling issue that was associated with the more typical IOR typeforms. The 1104 did not have the dramatically pinched ends, low ballast ratio, or the small-mainsail/big jib sailplan that is normally associated with the protypical IOR typeform.

Farr's literature of the era suggested that the success of the 1104 in world class racing lead to the 1978 change to the IOR rule. In my opinion it was that change to the rule that ultimately lead to the extremes in low ballast stability and high form stability that contributed to the 1979 Fastnet Disaster. Up until that change in the rule, you could still race competitively under the IOR with non-IOR typeforms such the J-36 and Farr 1104. The 1104 has a 40% ballast ratio contained in deep lead fin. The revised IOR specifically targeted boats with high stability and fractional rigs.

There is a lot of good about the way these boats were built. They had nicely framed, non-cored hulls. They employed minimal liners, and so are likely to be structurally sound candidates for restoration.

There were a couple 1104's here in Annapolis and when I was looking for my boat I spoke to a couple fellows who had raced on them for years. They spoke glowingly about these boats in all conditions. My only concern is that some of the boats were retrofitted with spagetti spars, but the original design was a robust fractional rig.

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ACK! The Baby Puke Green hull explains the price.

Must be a DIY paint job, I can't imagine a marine business doing that (well maybe if they could roll it out of the shop and yard at night).
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That was a very popular color back in the 1970's. I owned a black hulled boat that had that color for its cove stripe. You have to wonder what the heck we were thinking. On the other hand these colors seem to come back around. I was amazed at the number of seafoam green boats were at last year's boatshow.
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Remember when kitchen appliances came in "avacado" green? Awful color.
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