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Bought a '94 Catalina 4 years ago that had five blisters revealed during the survey (mainly on the port side, the south facing sunny side of the boat all it's previous life). Negotiated with seller to pay the cost for the yard to repair. Had it hauled again a year ago and no additional blisters or other problems. I think this is where a really good surveyor comes in handy, mine was able to state that the blisters were shallow and should be okay with proper repairs, and common on boats of that age in our area.
It is my understanding that some blisters can be much "deeper" in the laminate and are the result of uncured resin causing voids and more difficult to repair.
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I would walk away unless my own surveyor could tell me that the rest of the hull were not in jeopardy as well. A small fill job is one thing...a full bottom job is another...and you don't want to find you need one in a year or two.
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Blister's are not a big deal .. sometimes it might seem so, but I've had serveral boats where I've had bottom work done, including blister repairs. My current boat, 67 Cal 34 just came out of the yard -- having done a complete bottom job -- from taking off paint to the glass -- grinding out the blisters (small but numerous ones (over 75), sealing, barrier coating and repainting ...

If you have indications of blisters.. take the time to have your hull stripped so you can see "all" blisters. There are a number of them that hide under the paint -- so take the time and do it right ... have your seller pickup the cost or take it off the selling price. Those comments by others is correct in that you shouldn't have to pay -- and you know from the time you purchase the boat what it's condition is from the beginning .. Overall, blisters isn't a big deal, just have to make sure to deal with them so they don't become a larger problem in the future.
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I'd say it depends... ofcourse. The seller might have known there were blister issues, and thus priced the boat accordingly. Compare, compare, compare. If it were close to the price of other boats with healthy hulls, then definitely discount the price by the total cost to fix this issue, plus what ever other offer discount you might want to use for negotiation. Having one buyer walk away because of these blisters means that the seller is probably willing to negotiate alot more.

If the seller accepts an offer which compensates enough for the blisters, then I would buy it.

Might be a good idea to see if you can get ahold of the previous surveyor, and see if they'd offer quick advice on if these blisters are repairable before heading much further.

Good luck.
I'm not sure if the seller was aware of the blisters or not. From what I gather the boat has been in the water for 2 years or more only being pulled for short haul/wash/zinc replacements so it is possible they were a suprise to him.

The asking price is similar to others on the market well above BUC, so its a sure thing it was not priced with blisters in mind.
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I would walk away unless my own surveyor could tell me that the rest of the hull were not in jeopardy as well. A small fill job is one thing...a full bottom job is another...and you don't want to find you need one in a year or two.
I think my caveat here is "unless you can get the boat at a price that would allow for the repair and not put you way upside down".

Which is why I continue to vacillate on this boat. Other than the blisters, it is a pretty nice boat, already fitted with a lot of equipment that I'd like to have, that will likely not be on another example. Also while its not a rare boat it is the only one in that year range currently avialable locally. Earlier models lack major features, newer ones are above my price range. Other similiar models would impose the hassels of long distance shopping then trucking expense.
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I think my caveat here is "unless you can get the boat at a price that would allow for the repair and not put you way upside down".

Which is why I continue to vacillate on this boat. Other than the blisters, it is a pretty nice boat, already fitted with a lot of equipment that I'd like to have, that will likely not be on another example. Also while its not a rare boat it is the only one in that year range currently avialable locally. Earlier models lack major features, newer ones are above my price range. Other similiar models would impose the hassels of long distance shopping then trucking expense.
You've already made the decision, just haven't vocalized it

Blisters don't sink boats. Buy the boat, sweat the equity in by fixing the blisters with spot repairs where they are and a barrier coat over the rest at your next haul out.
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You've already made the decision, just haven't vocalized it

Blisters don't sink boats. Buy the boat, sweat the equity in by fixing the blisters with spot repairs where they are and a barrier coat over the rest at your next haul out.
I really haven't made a decsion.

OK, I have. Only I reverse myself every 1/2 hour. The top 1/2 of the hour I think about how great it would be sailing this boat and introducing a few friends to overnights on the hook.

The bottom 1/2 of the hour I think about how crappy it will feel becoming the "blister hunter" and spending every available hour in the off season covered in caustic chemicals, stripping, grinding, filling and fairing or just stroking a stroke inducing sized check for a professional repair.

There is also the slightly larger brother of this boat, that dangles just beyond my self imposed price limit. I could always join the ranks of "average Americans" and take a loan for a luxury item.
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Wink Ha! I not know what to tell you, but.....

You have what I call; "Fish out of water syndrome"

Yes, you flopping around on the ground wanting to get into the water.

I know this very well. You got the itch and find a boat and there always those little things that just make it not seem like that the boat. I would try to pay cash. I not like going into debt, especially for something I may end up owing more for it than I can sell it.

If, you like the boat. Make a cash offer you will be happy with. If the person accepts you have a boat, if, not, walk away and look at little longer. I had a boat about 10 years ago had Blisters like a pimple faced teenager. I got a good deal for the boat. Did not spend any more money than needed and kept the blisters.

Enjoyed the boat for 3 years. I mean enjoyed, as I not worry about scratching it up or whining when I run aground. People could have fun and not hear someone telling them not to scratch the boat.

After the three years I gave the boat to some teenagers. I figured at that price they could afford to fix the blisters. They have had the boat now for about 4 years and it still have the blisters and they have a blast with it.

They laugh and say the blisters give it personality.



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I really haven't made a decsion.

OK, I have. Only I reverse myself every 1/2 hour. The top 1/2 of the hour I think about how great it would be sailing this boat and introducing a few friends to overnights on the hook.

The bottom 1/2 of the hour I think about how crappy it will feel becoming the "blister hunter" and spending every available hour in the off season covered in caustic chemicals, stripping, grinding, filling and fairing or just stroking a stroke inducing sized check for a professional repair.

There is also the slightly larger brother of this boat, that dangles just beyond my self imposed price limit. I could always join the ranks of "average Americans" and take a loan for a luxury item.
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Keep in mind it's a 17 year old boat. A couple of blisters are a minor problem and an easily repaired one at that. Make an offer you'll be happy with, fix'er up nice, and be ready to go way before sailing season starts.
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Those that bought boats with blisters, did you as for an adjustment large enough to cover a full peel and relamination, or something less?
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