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Tenuki, you're breaking my heart here! The SJ24 is a nice boat, but it's no Catalina 25. I sailed my beloved tall rig Catalina 25 for 20+ years, and easily beat SJ 24s and S2 7.9s and C250s to the finish line, and won many light air races. The C25s are faster than the C27s, but, ironically, the C27s usually have to give the tall rig C25 handicap time. Don't call my baby a dog!
Mayme in light air, but when the wind pipes up the 27's will blow by a C25 and be alot more comfortable. But like you said I have seen the C25 blow by the C250's. THe only problem with the C25 is no headroom, the C250 and C27 and C270 you can stand up in them.

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Ok Ok this is not a who’s boat is better tread I have lost races to both C25 and C27 but beat both as well. For me the SJ24 is perfect and just one of the numerous choices in the under 30 range.
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Mayme in light air, but when the wind pipes up the 27's will blow by a C25....
I suppose that could happen, but it didn't happen once in over 20 years. The C27 is a fine, strong boat with good sailing qualities, and it's a very popular club racer. It isn't widely known, but the waterline of the C25 is 5" longer than that of the C27, so it has a higher hull speed than the C27, and it's somewhat lighter in weight. It would take a lot of wind to overcome that advantage.
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I suppose that could happen, but it didn't happen once in over 20 years. The C27 is a fine, strong boat with good sailing qualities, and it's a very popular club racer. It isn't widely known, but the waterline of the C25 is 5" longer than that of the C27, so it has a higher hull speed than the C27, and it's somewhat lighter in weight. It would take a lot of wind to overcome that advantage.
Not trying to make this a C25 to C27 comparison but, saying what I have observed in my non-formal racing in a high wind area. 25-30 knots of wind in the summer. Could be the experiance of the owners I have come across also. BTW I do have the TAll Rig Main Sail on a standard Rig
The C25 has a .05 knot hull speed advantage.
C25 6.3 vs. C27 6.25 vs. C250 6.17
The Capsize ratio of the C27 is 1.87
The Capsize ratio of the C25 is 1.99
The Capsize ratio of the C250 is 2.2

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Tenuki, you're breaking my heart here! The SJ24 is a nice boat, but it's no Catalina 25. I sailed my beloved tall rig Catalina 25 for 20+ years, and easily beat SJ 24s and S2 7.9s and C250s to the finish line, and won many light air races. The C25s are faster than the C27s, but, ironically, the C27s usually have to give the tall rig C25 handicap time. Don't call my baby a dog!
I was wrong, sorry.


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Throw 'em all in together, and it's most likely it will be the best skipper that wins. Been in races with the C25, C25T, C250, Capri26 and the SJ24, while I had a Hunter 26. We all won at one time or another, except for the 250.

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Catalina 25 (Tall+Spin)=90
Catalina 25 (Short+Spin)=94

SJ24 (Tall)=88.5
SJ24 (Short)=90

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When I sailed for 5 years in Puget Sound, I sailed a fun & sprite Laguna 24 [swing keel] that was responsive, trailerable and had a pop top for added headroom. It could sleep six with the dinette placed down for another double.
It was the next larger sailboat I purchased after leaning to sail on a Laser.
The Laguna 24 could go closer to shorelines than many fixed keel boats but could hold her own in rough waters in the Strait of Juan de Fuca. It was a pleasure spending two weeks sailing in the San Juan Islands south of Vancouver, B.C. I would buy another if I could find one just for having great fun. Owners keep them seemingly forever. Mine was easily trailered.

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