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If it is all copper colored... that is bad... silver-colored stranded wiring is very good... solid silver-colored wiring, fastened with wire nuts is probably aluminum wiring and a really, really bad idea.

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If it is all copper colored... that is bad... silver-colored stranded wiring is very good... solid silver-colored wiring, fastened with wire nuts is probably aluminum wiring and a really, really bad idea.
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Really slow on the pick up today. The more I think about it I don't remember seeing copper colored wire behind the control panel but I will have a close look tomorrow. For some reason I'm remembering copper somewhere but not a lot of it.
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That's not a " whew ", it's an " oh damn " I need to rewire
HEHEHEHEEHAHAHAHAHAHEHEHEHEHEHEH!!!!!!!

My kids came in here wondering what I was laughing about so hard...

T- if you boat has not been reqwired by a PO, you should have copper. I would not run out to the marine store and stock up on 5k in wire, but put it on the list to start replacing as you can. If you drop your stick, that is a GREAT time to pull that wire.

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PS I would question whether you relaly have to rip it all out... that may be a good questions for the board. I will post another thread and get opinions.

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On the other hand, that non-tinned automotive spade type connectered incorrectly run undersized aluminum wire on that 1980 something classic plastic next door to your boat is PROBABLY not going to erupt like Mt Saint Helen tomorrow at 3am and burn every boat in the marina to the water line.

After all, it hasn't yet.

per BoatUS IIRC electrical problems are the number 1 cause of boat fires.
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Sure..tinned wire is better...but there are a few hundred thousand older boats out there doing just fine with plain old copper. As recently as year 2000 some VERY high end boats were offering tinned wire as an OPTION at purchase. So it is really just a better way of doing things. Replace it as you need to with tinned and get rid of any solder joints. CD...funny...I did not have a single solder joint that I can recall on my boat. My guess is the PO of your Dad's did some work.

Labatt...I think that there is a tendancy for Taiwanese boats to get painted with a broad brush. What parts were not well made on you Passport? I did not in the course of my refit or subsequent use find one substandard quality fitting on my Tayana. Now I know that decks and tanks are issues that need to be checked or dealt with on Tayanas, but your statement sounds like ALL Taiwanese boats used cheap fittings to save $$. Lets keep generalized negative comments to a minimum and try to be specific about any negative stuff. Kinda like saying Valiants have known blister problems when the issue is specific to a production run.

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Fortunately the PO had the mast rewired and lights replaced just before I bought her.
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My kids came in here wondering what I was laughing about so hard...

T- if you boat has not been reqwired by a PO, you should have copper. I would not run out to the marine store and stock up on 5k in wire, but put it on the list to start replacing as you can. If you drop your stick, that is a GREAT time to pull that wire.

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PS I would question whether you relaly have to rip it all out... that may be a good questions for the board. I will post another thread and get opinions.
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Well put Cam, I have had not one problem with my Tayana related to quality of fittings. in fact, overall I'm very impressed with the quality of the hardware on the boat, first class all around.
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I gotta agree, I'm very pleased with the original workmanship, my problem is, either the original owner or the PO went from bad to worse, but like I said, it was a given when I bought the boat that the wiring was going to be less than good

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Ok, so I'm at my boat, an 87' Tayana and have looked at the wiring. All of the original wiring is copper with crimp connectors. Well insulated and no solder connections. Any later wiring is tinned stranded wire, again all well insulated with crimp connections and no solder joints. As I mentioned before all of the mast wiring has recently been replaced. Everything looks to be in great shape, I've had no problems, and so I plan to do nothing.
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