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CD...you are correct...I missed the $100k budget. You might get a whitby for that $$.
On the other hand "the return may be a straight shot with a stop in Bermuda or back up the ICW. It is not the plan now but would like a boat that could cross the pond to do the Med or maybe do the South Pacific."
...says he needs a bluewater boat and the Catalina/Morgan, Morgan and Endeavor CLEARLY do not qualify and the Mariner is suspect.
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Doubt he'd find a Brewer for that budget, but a Whitby is possible. I personally like the Whitby's.
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Ya gotta be careful with the Whitby's...some used a screw/adhesive deck to hull joint and others used standard bolts. I'd want one with bolts!
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I think I know the answer to this but how far would one take in an Irwin 38 or Gulfstar 41 Center Cockpit. From what I can tell from pictures they have a nice layout and the price is unbeatable. I suspect the price indicates the quality I would get. No farther than coastal cruising hops and then around the Bahamas?
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For that scenerio, you'd want a shallow draft, good ventilation, a roomy interior, and comfortable cockpit/deck space.
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mac...re: irwin38/gulfstar41...correct.
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For that scenerio, you'd want a shallow draft, good ventilation, a roomy interior, and comfortable cockpit/deck space.
My opinion is that is what he needs anyways. You CAN make the jump to Bermuda in a production boat... been done many times. I would not want to go to the med in it, though... but if that is on your definite destiation list, ship it via yachtwise and buy the boat that will be the best fit for the 99% of what you are definitey going to do, not the 1% of what you MIGHT do.

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6 days...open ocean...Bermuda is not coastal...and it is out of range of the reliable weather forecast so you have to take what you get at some point. Then throw in the Gulfstream on top.
This requires a blue water boat for safety sake. Yes...because it is "only" 6 days, many production boats have made it. Now do you want to talk about the 3 45'+ bluwater boats that were caught out off bermuda a few months back and were lost or abandoned?

If a lightly built, CC boat is what he can afford...he needs to alter his cruising goals OR understand that they carry significant risk above what most world cruisers would accept....OR buy a different boat.
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If a lightly built, CC boat is what he can afford...he needs to alter his cruising goals OR understand that they carry significant risk above what most world cruisers would accept....OR buy a different boat.
THAT I agree with. And this is moving out onto a sidenote/hijack, but would YOU have a problem taking a Catalina 380+ to Bermuda? Just you and your wife? You are an experienced sailor... good time offshore... would YOU do it?

What percentage, in your opinion, is the captain and what percentage is the boat?

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Thanks all, great information.

Given my budget, and within 10 years hopefully can do a little more, I have revised my list. With the desire to go offshore some day and the peace of mind a bluewater capable boat provides my preferred are:
- Corbin 39
- Whitby 42
- Tayana 42
- Peterson 44 (a little above my size limit but came across this also and seems bluewater capable)

If money is an issue then would go for these boats and stick to coast/island hopping.
- Morgan OI 41
- Gulfstar 41
- Irwin 38
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