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Modern Boom Furlers would be an advantage to the single handler making the main easy to set and reef to any level desired without ever leaving the cockpit. As there is no risk of a jam (sail can always be dropped) they are a good choice for offshore IF you can handle the heavy price..for both the boom and the sail which must be custom fit.

The CDI unit is not a boom furler...it is a behind the mast foil which is not efficient and still subject to jams and with high windage.

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It is a luxury. There are many other things I would get before mainsail furling.

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And those fat booms are ugly.

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Hey...I didn't call that funky looking pilot house ugly!!
The boom furlers work great...this isn't the FRUGAL singlehanders thread...no one said you had to get one..only that they work...but if you're still hanking on your jib and waiting for the sun to come out for a position fix I would guess it ain't gonna be your choice.

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I am a confined GPS user. I have spent many cold wet mornings trying to bring down stars while everyone else was having breakfast. No thanks on the sextant.
Love my hank on jib and that little pilothouse is funky n'est pas?
I am sure that your boom furler works great, I just don't want one. Too many moving parts. Less is more. K.I.S.S.
Then again, my boat isn't 52 feet long and I can handle everything without furling systems.

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I wouldn't take a good one (furler) off a boat but I wouldn't rush to put one on a boat either. Hanks just seem to have a better reputation.
I've had both, and while I have a decent ProFurl with a yankee jib on the forestay, the staysail is hank-on, and I wouldn't have furling on that particular sail, nor would I have in-mast furling for reasons of sail shape, jamming and the danger that it might get stuck at the wrong time. Also, how the hell are you supposed to rig a trysail? Maybe that's not an issue with the 'convenience' crowd.

If the Profurl broke, I wouldn't mind going to hank-ons. I could certainly carry a far greater sail area forward then for light airs.

I might on a larger boat have boom furling, but that preserves the battens and depends on gravity: if it buggers up, release the halyard and claw the main down. Four ties and it's not pretty, but it's secure.

But I am happy to have things as simple and dependable as slab reefing, a well-greased track, and the ability to anticipate...usually.. when it is prudent to reef.


But to each his own. If the object is single-handing, then the goal is simplicity and ruggedness, I think.
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IMHO, in-boom furling is far less an issue than in mast furling. If the boom furler fails or jams, you can still slab reef or furl the sail completely. If the in-mast system jams or fails, you're screwed. Big difference. You don't have to unfurl the sail from a boom furler to get it down or reef it when the system jams... like you do with a mast-furling system.

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With furlers, whether head or main, I think it makes a big difference what your sailing venue is. For passagemaking, hank-on headsails and a non-furled main make good sense. One less thing to break. For coastal and inland though (unless racing) you're not going to be making sail changes (or at least really need to on the fly), so furling makes sense in that situation.

If someone gave me a good in-boom furler, I'd put it on in a heartbeat, though I wouldn't have in-mast.

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Alive, is the one, that believes, in love.
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I bought a Hallberg-Rassy 37 last year and have found it perfect for single
handed sailing. The small cockpit makes it easy to reach both winches for
jib sheets. Also, the mainsheet is designed to be used without a winch so it's
much easier to tend to. I also had a switch for the anchor windlass put on the
binacle and a command mic for the VHF.

I had in-mast furling on my beneteau 331 which jammed. The in-mast furling
on the HR is selden and looks like much better engineering. I haven't had any
problems with it so far. I heard that German Frers increased the draft on the
HR37 because he assumed most would be ordered with in-mast furling.

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