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Livin,man, who's got it better than you. The whole world awaits your actions.Your not afraid to get your hands dirty.You have engine work, metal work experience.You have a passion for adventure thats geared towards the sea. You have your parents blessing too. Most kids dream of adventure. You have the opportunity to live your adventure. Check out some of the threads in sailnet about Sailors looking to plunk down 100 big ones on a sailboat that they can work on while they still are on active duty in the Navy or Coast Guard. They make decent money but they just don't get a chance to spend it while at sea. Every thing is taken care of ,food medical, coverall while your working down in the engine room at some of the biggest and best maintained pieces of machinery you will ever see.If you have seen the movie TOP GUN, you will know what just a fraction of the adrenaline rush of Navy flight operations is on any Carrier flight deck while under way. You are a recruiters dream. There is just so much opportunity in the service. The bonus cash you get for hazardous duty, will feel like gravy.You will feel that you should be paying them. And did I mention that if you get stationed in the US., you can keep your sailboat close by.Most sailors when I was in , their only love off the ship was their car. But in your case you can have two. Your car and sailboat.By the way you are getting paid for all these experiences.Not bad. Lots Of Luck whatever you decede. PAPA
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Don't get brainwashed into the navy or coast guard......unless you're an officer you're not going to learn **** about what you need to know about the sea. Get your IYT Yacht Master and learn on ships under 200 tons. The military is what people do when they don't no what to do. Oh, and if you get your IYT Yachtmaster......people don't shoot at you ......depending where you are....
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Poor Anderson. Boy are you misinformed. Who do you think works along side those Officers on board Navy Ships. Being shot at is a calculated risk in the service.If you expect something like that is going to happen you can defend against it. In the service you have ample opportunity to defend yourself because you have been trained by the best
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The pearson triton looks like a great boat, and seems to be very affordable-thanks for the link pooranderson. Any input on the automic 4 engine? Both the Triton 28 and the alberg 30 seem to be plentiful and usually low priced.
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The pearson triton looks like a great boat, and seems to be very affordable-thanks for the link pooranderson. Any input on the automic 4 engine? Both the Triton 28 and the alberg 30 seem to be plentiful and usually low priced.
The Atomic 4 is a decent engine... most production boats in the US have one - no longer made but parts are readily avail...

Per the Navy - Stay away from it unless it is something you want to do - obviously the person in question has his free will - and being in the Navy only amplifies it and creates undesirable effects in the ranks - I know I did the stint... it is not for everyone with some interest in the open ocean...If you had read his posts - he is not a follower - but a free thinker and that doesn't work in any branch of the military and honestly - you do not leave the military with job ready / marine marketable skills - unless you vie afterwards to go into government contracting positions or friend of a friend... Its a great way to serve your country - its a great way to get balance in your life (at a disturbing or youthful time)- but it is certainly not the answer to the endalls of anyone in their young prime unless they have no other direction to go or have not already desired to go that direction.... Flame me on that but I spent 8+ yrs..some make it a career others ...somehow make do quite finely...it certainly was a worthwhile experience for me considering my circumstances - but if I lived life again - never - it was marketing that preyed on the ill informed...
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How about this

Ever think about moving to Louisiana buying a boat to live abord and get a job welding in the oilfield? Good money work offshore dosen't cost anything to live while at work. Stay gone for a while on a job come home and sail. Here is a good boat for that.

w w w.sailboattraderonline.com/find/listing/1969-C&C+Hinterhoeller-Redwing-89030861[/url]

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If you're a certified welder there are some really good paying jobs out there that can really bump up the budget. Someone mentioned an oil rig, there are also pleanty of millwright jobs. There's money to be made for guys like you that have some skill in their hands. You may have to live on the road for a year or two, but the bank account will start to swell up pretty quickly.

There are inexpensive (cheap is a dirty word) boats that cruise. Here is a link to Tiny Bubbles, a PSC25 that this young couple bought in Hawaii and made it as far as Oz so far. Before you go "inexpensive PSC, yeah right", take a look at the boat. She ain't pretty by most peoples standards, but she's a hard nosed boat.
http://www.adventuresoftinybubbles.com/

I would rather not buy a ferro boat, they are cheap. Almost all were made in someones back yard, and to what standard?
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Livin,

Don't get brainwashed into the navy or coast guard......unless you're an officer you're not going to learn **** about what you need to know about the sea. Get your IYT Yacht Master and learn on ships under 200 tons. The military is what people do when they don't no what to do. Oh, and if you get your IYT Yachtmaster......people don't shoot at you ......depending where you are....
I found that while not paying well, being shot at was quite exillerating. Shooting back is fun too. I wouldn't recommend it to livin though. Brainwashed...

You can make enough to fund the dream in the private sector with welding skills, just don't breathe the fumes for too long.
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I have read many books about it such as dove,madien voyage, and currently reading lionheart, they all inspired me even more. and about the college thing I feel that there is no better time then now and school will always be here waiting for me, although that is good advice freesail99. Say I did buy an old alberg 30 or another small full keel boat for around 5,000. Considering I did most of the work myself fixing it up, how much more money would it take to get the boat seaworthy? I am half tempted to take a risk with buying a ferrocement boat and hope it was built right, there just so darn cheap!

I would stick with fiberglass only because I know little about ferro cement alberg would be the ticket and you timing is great dont wait till your old do it now let the wind set your course and have fun while your young we grow old way too fast college can wait no doubt get a better education in the real world school anyway you can go back to school later if you find it nesseary
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Jeff_H doesn't think much of the Triton:
http://www.sailnet.com/forums/buying...html#post91038
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