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geez too many options

ok 2 adults 1 child a boat, big enough to be comfortable in open ocean ,yet small enough for easy hadle ,yet big enough for open water,but small enough for no more than 2 or 3 overnite in open water , ok this is just length draft is another story, good grief I am gettin the feeling 28 would be to small (((unless built correctly)) yet 32 would be too big unless built not shabby enough
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It depends on the design and style of the boat. My boat was built in 1961 and designed to be a throwback to yachts of the 30's. While it's 39'4" LOA, the interior sleeps four plus a pilot berth and can accommodate six comfortably for a daysail. Contrast that with a 70's boat with a quarterberth and you could go with something around 34' for the same amount of interior volume. It depends on what ya wanna use it for. Weekends, Coastal, Bluewater.
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Did you have a price range? Seems a lot of other things fall into place when price is a consideration. 27s up to 32s are not that different to handle. what do you sail now?
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Did you have a price range? Seems a lot of other things fall into place when price is a consideration. 27s up to 32s are not that different to handle. what do you sail now?
sailin a desk ,,, what I know about boats is endless what I know about sailboats is shameful . complete sailin novice ,, expert ocean goer but thats with a key and lots of gas... we will be getting taught right tho,, at least when the time comes - for now its pokin around lookin for a boat we can plop in the yard fix up,piece together, than put her in head south from chatham mass to first stop staten island than points south undecided... but will be outside probly 3 or 4 days tops at any given time
A time is comin here when we will be able to cut ties and go basicly where the wind takes us and I want to be ready If the free time comes without a boat I'm afraid we will never get to go

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2.get untied//pets//teenagers//grandmothers//$$//cars//etc..
3.put boat in yard
4.get her --tip top
5.wait for the right moment
6.somewhere in here get a hold of my brother in law for some quick sailin must knows,must haves

prices range well I probly wouldnt want to spend for than 10k for a good hull with good sails motor any shape like i said we can piece it together rather spend 10 and put 10 into her than pay 20 certain way I want things on board ((my way)) and knowing where every wire//pipe//fuel//water //is



the perfect boat??? somewhere between weekended and blue water --like a small blue water cruiser heavy duty yet smallish I dont think I want anything huge 32 foot full keel --TANKISH would be somthing I would buy

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A westsail 32? granted full keel, double ender, tankish.......altho there are some after factory bought bare hulls that were finished by owners, some good, some really bad.........or the 28 if you want smaller.

Depending upon what you call open water, and where, a Catalina 30 might do ok............again, depending upon where and when.............

You could go to 33-35' and not be that much harder to sail than a 28-32'r. Just moorage and maintenance etc will be more........

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There are a lot of boats that would fit the bill... One that comes to mind rather quickly is the Alberg 30... which is fairly inexpensive nowadays, but getting a bit long in tooth. There's a blog, www.weliveonaboat.com , about a couple and their child who liveaboard an Alberg 30.

Some other boats in that size range that would probably suit you: Tartan 34, Southern Cross 28 or 31, Westsail 32, Bristol 29.9, Cape Dory 30, Pearson Ariel or Triton.

The boats above 30' will have significantly more room than the ones under 30' generally...a lot of this depends on what your budget is.

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A westsail 32? granted full keel, double ender, tankish.......altho there are some after factory bought bare hulls that were finished by owners, some good, some really bad.........or the 28 if you want smaller.

Depending upon what you call open water, and where, a Catalina 30 might do ok............again, depending upon where and when.............

You could go to 33-35' and not be that much harder to sail than a 28-32'r. Just moorage and maintenance etc will be more........

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pollack rip channell is what i would call open water nice to stay out of those places but must expect the worse

doub;e enders are quite nice in there own right but the Alberg i think would be more my style who know maybe none of this will work so I also want something resellable



ok so 29/30 ft full keel Bristol ,Alberg type hull in good shape with good sails/lines motor questionable and needs electronics Probly strip it anyway and put a layer of fiber matt in her as much as I hate fiberglassing --debatable I guess --really go threw her from top to bottom heck I need a new hobby anyway

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Looking up that area on a map, looks like the Sraight of Juan e Fuca, or going around Vancouver island near me. A Catilina 27 or two have done the VI trip! Granted in the summer when the winds/weather is a bit nicer. Even my 29' Jeanneau would do that. Being as it was designed to sail in the Bay of Biscay.

Reality is, lots of boats will work, but if going for worst case, then any of the boats SD mentioned. Plus, I feel there are many more that in most cases, a good skipper etc, will do ok also. As you should hopefully know if a hurricane or equal is coming up the coast, so you can stay out of those situations. It would be the quick moving squall you have to deal with, and any boat will get knocked down, or run into trouble in those situations.

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I know a screamingly well maintained Ericson 35 here in Annapolis that just went up for sail for a paltry 17.5k.
There are a lot of boats that fit the need, but most in that budget range will require both considerable upgrading and crew knowledge to handle even 3-4 days outside.
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ok lets move on to motors gas/deisal inboards/4 stroke/2 stroke/outboards

lets face it the deisal inboard is no doubt the way to go but on the other hand 4 stroke outboards are wonderfully dependable is there a way around the recharging of batterys using the 15hp outboard? 4 stroke outboards to me are just indestrucable wonder if they make one with a good charging system?? hmmm probly wont be a need for an outboard other than spare/emergancy but I dont think I would leave the harbor without these things radar/gps/spare motor/raft and/or dingy
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